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re: Alarming trend in local La hospital. Vaccinated now at 28%, from 5% on avg previous week
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:25 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:25 pm to The Spleen
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Pretty sure a similar thing happened in the UK and it was attributed to the vaccination rate increasing.
Why do you people keep posting true information? This board doesn't function on facts. You have to post bullshite information to make most of the posters happy.
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Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:25 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:25 pm to LNCHBOX
when you are dealing with such small numbers, the slightest of variations can look like huge swings with %
this is basic hack shite
this is basic hack shite
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:26 pm to Salmon
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when you are dealing with such small numbers, the slightest of variations can look like huge swings with %
this is basic hack shite
I almost immediately discredit any source that only provides a percentage or rate and not overall data to go with it. It is almost always sensationalized.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:26 pm to Salmon
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dealing with such small numbers,
This should be the only relevant fact of focus. shite is not even the flu at this point.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:27 pm to The Spleen
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attributed to the vaccination rate increasing.
How much has the rate increased in Louisiana? Looks like maybe a percent over the past month
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:27 pm to RobbBobb
They are also admitting almost anyone for anything.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:27 pm to oilattorney4lsu
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Well the more people that get vaccinated, means the statistical numbers change. If 99% of the population in the state gets vaccinated, then of course the number of people in the hospital for Covid which are vaccinated it’s going to proportionately increase. It’s just math.
Good point, but I’m almost certain I remember CDC-type people saying the vaccine would keep you out of the hospital, even if it didn’t keep you from being infected.
They said this as part of a campaign to make everyone get vaccinated.
Was it just another lie?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:28 pm to Salmon
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hospitalizations for the vaccinated have decreased by 23% in the last 5 days
statistics is fun
But not fun enough to include the 40% decrease in the unvaccinated hospitalizations?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:28 pm to Earnest_P
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Good point, but I’m almost certain I remember CDC-type people saying the vaccine would keep you out of the hospital, even if it didn’t keep you from being infected.
They said this as part of a campaign to make everyone get vaccinated.
Was it just another lie?
So with your logic, unless zero vaccinated people are hospitalized the vaccine is ineffective?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:29 pm to RobbBobb
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But not fun enough to include the 40% decrease in the unvaccinated hospitalizations?
But how many of those would not have been hospitalized if they instead were vaccinated?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:29 pm to oilattorney4lsu
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Well the more people that get vaccinated, means the statistical numbers change. If 99% of the population in the state gets vaccinated, then of course the number of people in the hospital for Covid which are vaccinated it’s going to proportionately increase. It’s just math.
Crazy how most people don't understand simple things like this.
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Still not enough to convince me to get the vaccine.
I got the vax but want nothing to do with a mandate of any kind.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:30 pm to RobbBobb
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But not fun enough to include the 40% decrease in the unvaccinated hospitalizations?
sure
sounds like a good thing, no?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:33 pm to The Spleen
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Pretty sure a similar thing happened in the UK and it was attributed to the vaccination rate increasing.
Well, considering only 39% of Rapides citizens are fully vaccinated, that wouldnt be the case here, now would it?
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COVID-19 Vaccination in Rapides Parish, LA
As of Sept. 15, 2021
Population 131,546
Fully vaccinated 51,662
39.27%
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:35 pm to LNCHBOX
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But how many of those would not have been hospitalized if they instead were vaccinated?
The term "vaccinated" means both shots and the requisite amount of time has passed. Only one shot gets lumped in to "unvaccinated". Just another way to fudge the numbers. Do no harm, until that Pfizer checks clears the bank, baby.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:36 pm to RobbBobb
So, 72% unvaccinated in the most extreme. Gotcha
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:41 pm to Cajunhawk81
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The term "vaccinated" means both shots and the requisite amount of time has passed. Only one shot gets lumped in to "unvaccinated". Just another way to fudge the numbers. Do no harm, until that Pfizer checks clears the bank, baby.
How much do you realistically think that has shifted the numbers? Do not answer with the ridiculous 80% clickbait from the article you just read today.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:41 pm to RobbBobb
quote:You think it's "max protection dates" and not that the vaccine just isn't that effective against the variants?
max protection dates
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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So with your logic, unless zero vaccinated people are hospitalized the vaccine is ineffective?
I didn't say that, but I can see why it sounded like that's what I meant.
I was responding to the "duh, if everyone is vaccinated, then everyone in the hospital for COVID will be vaccinated" argument. That's tautological, but I can't be alone in thinking that at some number or % of vaccinated individuals, the amount of vaccinated people in the hospital would become unacceptable.
IOW, we shouldn't at any point be seeing hospitals struggling to keep up with the amount of vaccinated COVID patients they are seeing.
I'm not trying to be unfair. My impression, taken from listening to the CDC and all of its various mouthpieces, was that they were saying the vaccine was highly effective at keeping people out of the hospital. If hospitals are burdened with COVID patients, and a large % of those patients are vaccinated, I call that a failed vaccination.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:46 pm to Earnest_P
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but I can't be alone in thinking that at some number or % of vaccinated individuals, the amount of vaccinated people in the hospital would become unacceptable.
This is why rates and percentages are deceiving as frick.
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