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A Viking settlement in North America has been pinpointed to specific year

Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:29 pm
There has been carbon dating done that found a cosmic ray event, probably caused by solar flares, happened in 993. So researchers looked at 3 trees Vikings cut down at at L’Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland, counted the tree rings from the time of the cosmic ray event, which produced a spike in carbon-14, to get a date of 1021 when the trees were cut.

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“This is the first time the date has been scientifically established,” said archaeologist Margot Kuitems, a researcher at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands and the study’s lead author.

“Previously the date was based only on sagas — oral histories that were only written down in the 13th century, at least 200 years after the events they described took place,” she said.


So the Vikings were in North America in 1021 at a settlement with probably about 100 people that lasted for 3-13 years.

Their church may have looked like this:



NBC news
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:30 pm to
So the white man was oppressing brown people even earlier than expected!!!

Posted by GeauxHouston
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:30 pm to
Honestly it’s sad that American universities/schools gloss over the fact that the Vikings were here that much earlier than a Columbus.
Also so odd how they discovered a whole new continent and that fact never reached any other civilization in Europe? I guess it was still the dark age.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Ping Pong
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:32 pm to
so the Indians stole this land from the Vikings??
Posted by nolaks
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:32 pm to
i wonder how viciously they pursued the natives
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Honestly it’s sad that American universities/schools gloss over the fact that the Vikings were here that much earlier than a Columbus.

it seems like all the conventional knowledge re: crossing the atlantic and pacific to reach the new world is wrong

there was a good JRE about it with one of the weinsteins
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:33 pm to
Vikings were clearly wypipo. Columbus eeeh....not so clear.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:33 pm to
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So the white man was oppressing brown people even earlier than expected!!!

I have a lot of Danish ancestry. Should I have been celebrating on Indigenous People's Day?
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:33 pm to
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a date of 1021 when the trees were cut.


So a thousand years ago.

The fact that we're reflecting on what happened 1000 years ago has me wondering what it'll be like in 3021, 1000 years later and what they'll say about us and what will be discussed.

That is if we're not all ruled by Chinese Communist overlords.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:34 pm to
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Honestly it’s sad that American universities/schools gloss over the fact that the Vikings were here that much earlier than a Columbus.



One is an interesting factoid. Once had significant global/historical consequences. I think any good history presentation will treat them accordingly. What more do you think should be addressed?
Posted by GeauxHouston
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:34 pm to
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wonder how viciously they pursued the natives

I wish there was written text on any battles they had. Pretty interesting stuff that would be
Posted by LB84
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:34 pm to
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Honestly it’s sad that American universities/schools gloss over the fact that the Vikings were here that much earlier than a Columbus.


It is hardly mentioned. The only defense for it is that when Columbus came back it changed history. Every western European country wanted to get in on the action. The Norse exploration didn't bring waves of people to the new world.

Posted by Diseasefreeforall
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Honestly it’s sad that American universities/schools gloss over the fact that the Vikings were here that much earlier than a Columbus.


It makes sense. Greenland is a lot closer to North America than Spain. It's still 2,200 nautical miles though so it was quite a haul in a longship.
Posted by TideHater
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:35 pm to
So Vikings basically brought diversity to this land?
Posted by GeauxHouston
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:36 pm to
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What more do you think should be addressed?

I was always taught that Columbus was first. Not until later was it that I learned of the Vikings historical feat. I just think us as humans are obsessed with being the “first” at things, and I believe the Vikings deserve some damn credit.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:36 pm to
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Their church may have looked like this:



Should have stuck with the old gods
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:36 pm to
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Honestly it’s sad that American universities/schools gloss over the fact that the Vikings were here that much earlier than a Columbus.


Eh. Columbus just had such far more impact on history, its pretty easy to see why him and other Europeans have been focused on more.

The Vikings seemed to have just established small settlements for a very short period and not much else.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:37 pm to
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Also so odd how they discovered a whole new continent and that fact never reached any other civilization in Europe? I guess it was still the dark age.


Did they even know that they discovered a whole new "continent"?

They were probably just like "Oh yeah, there's some land over here, too" without any idea of how far it went or how it fit into the greater picture.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:38 pm to
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It's still 2,200 nautical miles though so it was quite a haul in a longship.
They didn't try to eat the whole cow in one bite brah:

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