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A question about the English language.

Posted on 8/22/21 at 5:19 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 5:19 pm
If the English invented the English language, and they drop their Rs at the ends of words, why even include the letter R at the ends of words?

"Ordah" rather than "order."

English-speaking countries that routinely drop R (blue) versus rhotic countries (red).
Posted by cable
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by High C
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 5:24 pm to
They add R sounds to the ends of words that don’t have an R to make up for it, though.
Posted by rpg37
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 5:25 pm to
All I know as a teacher is the English language is racist and a tool of white supremacy.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 5:27 pm to
Waitresses in the South almost always say “How you?” instead of “How are you?”.

I always notice, it’s easily 90+%.

Some of them IWHI too, I always notice that too.

That percentage is much lower (admittedly for them towards me probably as well).
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 5:28 pm
Posted by Santiago_Dunbar
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 5:29 pm to
There was a shift in the 1800s where England went non-rhotic. The pronounced English spoken at the time of the American Revolution is allegedly closer to how it’s spoken today in the US compared to in modern England.

History of English podcast traces it all the way back to Indo-European:
History of English Podcast
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:33 pm to
Seems to be a dialect thing. My grandfather from Georgia used no Rs. My dad, who grew up in Kentucky, puts Rs in words that don't have any. Ex- Chicargo
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:35 pm to
On a Southern board
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:35 pm to
Oy
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:38 pm to
Language is a living thing. No one group just directly invented the English language. You’re referencing one single common popular dialect from over there.

Not to mention the English didn’t invent the R or the rest of the alphabet you’re referencing nor did they have much to do with assigning sounds to letters.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:57 pm to
Isn't today's English accent an affectation that began during Victorian times?
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:57 pm to
Fridgeraduh
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

My dad, who grew up in Kentucky, puts Rs in words that don't have any. Ex- Chicargo
Don Adams from NYC does this all the time on Get Smart; "Warshington DC"
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:03 pm to
like pronouncing it "tigahs"?

Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:03 pm to
You need to listen to “The History of English Podcast.”
Posted by Cymry Teigr
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:04 pm to
What’s an English accent? Public school snooty (FYI public school in England means something different than here), or a Cockney accent? Liverpudlian? Etc. There’s probably more varied accents in a far smaller geographic area in England than we have in this entire country.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

Isn't today's English accent an affectation that began during Victorian times?
If you're talking about the BBC Oxford Accent ("And now for something completely different"), many people in England object to the idea of that as the standard English accent. Just as many people here object to the idea of the Ted Baxter announcer voice as the standard American accent.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:10 pm to
Do I need to listen to all 150 episodes?
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Fridgeraduh



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