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when i enter a hooters, which is normally twice a day for several hours at a time, i refuse to look a hooters chick in the eyes, as it is a sign of weakness.
i stare at either their tits, arse or vagina region to let them bitches know that i'm their daddy.
me
i stare at either their tits, arse or vagina region to let them bitches know that i'm their daddy.
me
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Because the alternative theory, that greedy businesses would rather be short staffed than pay market wages, does not make sense either. Frankly I don’t understand what’s going on with the labor shortage right now.
I think there is an alternative theory:
Because we are in relatively uncharted territory, everyone in the job market is working with imperfect, incomplete information. Employees clearly want more money, paid time off, etc. Employers know that, once they offer those increases, it’s going to set a new floor that they likely won’t ever be able to break through again. Employers also know they would have to increase their prices, which they don’t know if the market will support.
If employers knew the market would support increased wages and increased prices, I think they would just do so. But since they don’t know that, and they know that can’t lower wages once they raise them, they are playing a game of chicken with the workforce, believing that workers will eventually break and come back for the previously normal wage structure. Workers believe the employers will break first.
Only time will tell who will be correct.
Seagrove Market Café, established in 1939, has officially priced itself onto my sh-tlist and we’ll not be returning, even when friends and family visit.
Their famous grouper sandwiches have gone from $14 to $22 while the fish portions have become ridiculously small and the tiny buns appear to be Walmart brand.
Our gang of friends tend to bike to happy hours so we don’t have to fight for parking spots and we pay cash to avoid the 3.5% credit card surcharge most places are also adding on top of service & resort fees.
Their famous grouper sandwiches have gone from $14 to $22 while the fish portions have become ridiculously small and the tiny buns appear to be Walmart brand.
Our gang of friends tend to bike to happy hours so we don’t have to fight for parking spots and we pay cash to avoid the 3.5% credit card surcharge most places are also adding on top of service & resort fees.
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Maybe with the current financial climate, people weren't making $200-$400 per shift at low to mid tier restaurants anymore?
They are making money for those who are working. Anecdotally, I've got girls making about $1k working 3 shifts a week right now
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by Kurt Eichenwald on 5/21/22 at 9:30 am to RealDawg
No industry got hit harder by lockdowns than the restaurant industry. Lots of people were told their jobs were non essential and handed separation notices. Myself included.
Just can’t take the risk, especially during an election year. Who knows what they have planned this fall.
Just can’t take the risk, especially during an election year. Who knows what they have planned this fall.
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by Rhino5 on 5/21/22 at 9:40 am to Dawgfanman
Or perhaps I don’t feel like wasting 4 hours of my life on my beach trip to go eat food at an average joes restaurant.
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by notiger1997 on 5/21/22 at 9:41 am to Joshjrn
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Employers know that, once they offer those increases, it’s going to set a new floor that they likely won’t ever be able to break through again. Employers also know they would have to increase their prices, which they don’t know if the market will support.
Do you just ignore reality on purpose?
Businesses have very much been increasing pay and raising prices.
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by notiger1997 on 5/21/22 at 9:45 am to dragginass
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re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by Dawgfanman on 5/21/22 at 9:48 am to Rhino5
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Or perhaps I don’t feel like wasting 4 hours of my life on my beach trip to go eat food at an average joes restaurant.
How long does it take, on your beach trip, to go shopping, prepare the food, eat and clean up?
Maybe others don’t like doing all that work on their beach trip?
And for those in hotel rooms without full well stocked kitchens..cooking isn’t exactly an option.
This post was edited on 5/21 at 9:51 am
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by Joshjrn on 5/21/22 at 10:04 am to notiger1997
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Do you just ignore reality on purpose? Businesses have very much been increasing pay and raising prices.
Restaurants have been raising base salary for servers and offering paid time off?
Or did you ignore the actual subject of the thread to build a pretty strawman to knock over?
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by RogerTheShrubber on 5/21/22 at 10:05 am to Joshjrn
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Restaurants have been raising base salary for servers and offering paid time off?
Which requires raising prices, which leads to lost business.
its lose/lose.
Economics are just hard for some folks.
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by Joshjrn on 5/21/22 at 10:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Which requires raising prices, which leads to lost business.
its lose/lose.
Economics are just hard for some folks.
Which I already covered here: LINK
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by baldona on 5/21/22 at 10:19 am to Y.A. Tittle
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They need to import some Eastern European females to these areas to fill the jobs.
A big wave of them came through 30A about 5-6 years ago
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They need to import some Eastern European females to these areas to fill the jobs.
A big wave of them came through 30A about 5-6 years ago
My neighbor owns a pizza place in destin, he used to hire a bunch of Euros for the summer but the Government killed J-1 Visas during Covid. I'm not sure about them currently?
My neighbor said he has been using "college interns" last year and this year. Last year pay was $12/ hour plus tips this year its $20/ hour because the group they were with no longer could find housing for them.
Peak summer help at places like Bubba Gumps was always low, always. The crappy chain places were always short staffed, this is coming from a guy that worked in 8 different Destin Restaurants from HS through my first 2 years post grad. The better restaurants which are mostly locally owned and operated and locally adjusting to the market, are for the most part staffed well considering the current climate.
Its pretty easy to make good money when your standard plate is $30 and some up to $50. Any decent staff should be pushing $2000 of sales Wed through Sat.
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Because we are in relatively uncharted territory, everyone in the job market is working with imperfect, incomplete information. Employees clearly want more money, paid time off, etc. Employers know that, once they offer those increases, it’s going to set a new floor that they likely won’t ever be able to break through again. Employers also know they would have to increase their prices, which they don’t know if the market will support.
I don't agree for Restaurant staff. The core restaurant staff is one of 2 people:
1.) Lifers - Can't get their shite together to work a normal job
2.) "part time" workers that are working a 2nd job or going to school or some other activity during the day so need a well paying night job.
Lifers somewhat care about benefits, but not really. The only thing that really matters is proper staffing to help them make the most amount of money. The places that are low on servers are because the servers aren't making $25+ hour. Some places they are making $50-75/ hour. Its hard to make a ton of money working 4-6 hour shifts for 4 nights a week, but its decent enough and good for a certain part of the population.
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by notiger1997 on 5/21/22 at 10:51 am to Joshjrn
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Restaurants have been raising base salary for servers
Many have increased the base pay as others have mentioned in here.
And for other restaurant positions as well as at fast food places, the pay has gone up a lot. Still can't get lazy workers to show up.
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offering paid time off?
This is just not feasible for servers.
re: 30a/Destin StaffingPosted by jmarto1 on 5/21/22 at 11:09 am to notiger1997
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Many have increased the base pay as others have mentioned in here.
And for other restaurant positions as well as at fast food places, the pay has gone up a lot. Still can't get lazy workers to show up.
Pretty much. I could start someone at $25/hr to fry wings and it wouldn't be enough
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offering paid time off?
This is just not feasible for servers.
These generally aren't economically sound people and Baldona is correct as posted above. Students do not value paid time off. They just want the time off. Lifers are a mess and just get by and they need the cash on and hand and ability to just pick up a shift
So let's say you're both correct. There's no amount of money you can pay people to work in a restaurant. They won't show up, regardless.
Yet, people haven't been receiving enhanced benefits in over a year. So that's certainly not keeping them at home.
So, is your position that restaurants are uniquely and simply no longer a feasible business structure and should all just shut down?
Because if I'm wrong about pay and benefits as an incentive, you can scream "laziness" until you're blue in the face, but it sounds like your entire business model is fricked.
Yet, people haven't been receiving enhanced benefits in over a year. So that's certainly not keeping them at home.
So, is your position that restaurants are uniquely and simply no longer a feasible business structure and should all just shut down?
Because if I'm wrong about pay and benefits as an incentive, you can scream "laziness" until you're blue in the face, but it sounds like your entire business model is fricked.
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So, is your position that restaurants are uniquely and simply no longer a feasible business structure and should all just shut down?
In a way yes. Not all should shut down of course, but we do have a problem of there being WAY too many restaurants. Most places are operating at what, half capacity at best? That tells me there are double the number of restaurants than the market can reasonable support.
Back to the original topic - 30a used to be a place that everyone rented houses for the very purpose of a relaxed trip where you didnt go out to eat all the time. We would go with extended family and haul in a week of food from Costco in several gigantic coolers. We would eat one meal a week out on the last night. Over the years it has turned into an “Instagram” place where the pretend wealthy go to be seen. So of course staffing is a problem because where are any of those people supposed to live when every spec of housing anywhere nearby is rented to tourists for $8k a week? 2021 was probably the last year we’ll ever go. It’s just not worth the hassle anymore.
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