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Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:55 pm to blueslover
@13
Armstead, Gregory, Scherff, Collins, WAYNES, Ray
@31
Not too particular here. Just want to address whatever we didn't get with the 13th. Our chief needs IMO are MLB and WR, with pass rusher coming in next. Don't want anything to do with any other position this early.
Armstead, Gregory, Scherff, Collins, WAYNES, Ray
@31
Not too particular here. Just want to address whatever we didn't get with the 13th. Our chief needs IMO are MLB and WR, with pass rusher coming in next. Don't want anything to do with any other position this early.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:06 pm to Rand AlThor
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Scherff, Collins
Curious why these two? What if it came down to say Collins, Waynes or Ray? That's a decent chance of happening if luck doesn't fall our way.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:44 pm to PurpleDrank18
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Curious why these two? What if it came down to say Collins, Waynes or Ray? That's a decent chance of happening if luck doesn't fall our way.
That is a nightmare scenario for me. I guess I would vote for Collins in that scenario but I would not be happy with it.
I don't have any interest in taking a guard at 13 (at least not one of these two and there is no one else worthy). I have issues with both. For Scherff, he is never going to play tackle. Point-blank-period. I do not think he is athletic enough to play the position. I am aware a lot of people disagree. That's fine. But I don't think he has the foot quickness and pure athleticism to succeed as a tackle. I think he can do very well as a guard, but I am not fully comfortable taking a guard early in the first (unless he is a guaranteed All-Pro), OR if he can transition to tackle later (when Strief retires). Collins will be able to do this. He is a better talent than Scherff on that front. But his pass protection is alarming. Who knows, maybe it's a scheme thing? Or the fact that my local HS passes better than LSU.. I don't know. Either way, I want a day-1 upgrade with the 13th pick and I just don't know if I'm comfortable sending Collins out there over Lelito or Kelemente to protect Brees.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:52 pm to Rand AlThor
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That is a nightmare scenario for me.
Oh I totally agree. I was just wondering why those two guys were on your absolute-don't-want list for 13. I agree with you on the OG at 13, and I'm not one of the many on this board where it's Scherff/Collins or bust, but it'd still be a solid player.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:20 pm to blueslover
#13. No WR or CB... Very deep class, will get good player in 3rd
#31. No OL.
#31. No OL.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:37 am to Rand AlThor
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maybe it's a scheme thing? Or the fact that my local HS passes better than LSU
Unless you have some facts showing Collins giving up multiple sacks then I am really confused as to why LSU's lack of qb production has anything to do with Collins' ability to pass protect.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 12:39 am
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:45 am to LSUFM57
#31 Please not J Collins LSU he is not a first round pick !
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:46 am to blueslover
I'd take Malcolm Brown, but preferably with a trade down.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:32 pm to blueslover
DGB @ #31. Limited career production, character issues, doesn't run good routes. Wouldn't want him at 44 either.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:25 pm to St Augustine
Agree on no corners. I have no data to back this up, but it just seems like every year there are so many busts at corner. Take best oline available if the pass rushers are gone. Not sold on Dupree either.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:31 pm to 337Tigah
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Unless you have some facts showing Collins giving up multiple sacks then I am really confused as to why LSU's lack of qb production has anything to do with Collins' ability to pass protect.
Have you watched a drop of film on Collins? I am not saying that specifically Collins is why LSU cannot pass. I'm saying it's been a contributing factor. He is a power mauler who excels in the run game but he lacks technique to step in and immediately contribute as a pass protector. He gets beat around the edge and looks like his feet get tangled. For me, he reminds me a lot of Greg Robinson when he came out. Has the talent, just a lot of work to do.
Again, not to say he couldn't succeed. He just is not ready to protect our biggest asset right now.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:35 pm to Rand AlThor
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He is a power mauler who excels in the run game but he lacks technique to step in and immediately contribute as a pass protector. He gets beat around the edge and looks like his feet get tangled. For me, he reminds me a lot of Greg Robinson when he came out. Has the talent, just a lot of work to do.
liability as a tackle =\= liability as a guard
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:38 pm to Chad504boy
That is true, but if you look at my post above, I mention that I'm not interested in a guard at 13 unless they can play tackle later OR now in the event of an injury. Collins, unlike Scherff, has the talent for this but is not developed enough to protect Brees in that scenario and then we are in hot water. Neither of them fill what I see as requirements for being drafted to play guard at 13.
But I'm not a professional. If the team thinks one of them is worthy of the pick, I encourage them to do it. But my personal preference shies away from these two at 13.
But I'm not a professional. If the team thinks one of them is worthy of the pick, I encourage them to do it. But my personal preference shies away from these two at 13.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:00 pm to Rand AlThor
Collins pass blocked on 334 snaps last season and gave up just 4 QB hurries and he didn't give up a single QB hurry in 11 games. And according to PFF he finished 1st out of 94 players in this class in Pass Blocking Efficiency and 3rd in Run Blocking Efficiency.
So how exactly was Collins a contributing factor to LSUs poor passing attack?
So how exactly was Collins a contributing factor to LSUs poor passing attack?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:21 pm to KG5989
I agree I was confused when I read that too.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:20 am to KG5989
Thank you sir. He has posted zero facts to support his claims.
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