Who would you rather: Graham or MT13

Posted by Buck Dancer

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:14 pm to Lester Earl

MT all day

Posted by Mr. Hangover

New Orleans

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:14 pm to Lester Earl

MT and it’s just a personal preference

Posted by lionward2014

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:19 pm to Lester Earl

Michael Thomas 10/10.

Posted by t00f

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:25 pm to Lester Earl

Think MT is less of a system player and would be successful anywhere else that can get the ball near him.

Posted by falconry88

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:27 pm to lionward2014

MT doesn't seem to have alligator arms or be afraid of contact going up, so there's that.

Thomas ftw.

This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 4:28 pm

Posted by Pendulum

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:28 pm to Lester Earl

That 2013 offense was damn dependent on Graham to get points on the board and convert in redzone, but I think it still pales in comparison to the offense of today being dependent on MT. Maybe this changes a little this year with Cook being added.

So that being said, and considering our top$ QB is about to retire;; MT all-day.

I'm sure you're about to drop some "in a vacuum" statistics on us that make Graham look like a steal comparatively if I had to guess.

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:30 pm to Pendulum

quote:
I'm sure you're about to drop some "in a vacuum

It’s an “in a vacuum” question. One or the other

Posted by theducks

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:31 pm to Lester Earl

You should use % of cap space instead of the contract numbers. Graham at his price looks like a steal today but at the time that was top dollar.

Posted by Hoodoo Man

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:31 pm to Lester Earl

Somebody downvoting like a mofo in here.

Posted by Mr. Hangover

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:43 pm to Lester Earl

Who would you pick?

Posted by bountyhunter

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:44 pm to Lester Earl

Thomas because he's a more complete player at his position. If you look at Graham as a TE then he didn't perform in the blocking game and he struggled with physical defenders at the line. These issues are more apparent for a TE.

Not knocking Graham, he was a solid player that really took over the game in the red zone.

Posted by sicboy

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:52 pm to Mr. Hangover

quote:
Who would you pick?

He's going to wait to see what the majority picks and then go with the other.

So Lester is a Jimmy guy.

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 5:02 pm to bountyhunter

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Graham, he was a solid player

"solid"?

Posted by moneyg

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 5:06 pm to Lester Earl

quote:
2013 Jimmy Graham, 4yrs $40mil— $21guar

This is a no brainer due to the contracts.

Posted by partywiththelombardi

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Posted on 7/31/19 at 5:11 pm to Lester Earl

by 2013 especially after watching Seattle shut down Jimmy twice makes this kinda lopsided for me.

Thomas can do everything a WR is expected to do at a really high if not elite level minus taking the top off

Graham couldnt block or beat jams with the right personnel

also you cant really compare cap figures at different times

10 million per year was top dollar for a TE back then just like 20 million is for a WR now.