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What's your opinion of LT Charles Brown so far?
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:00 pm
Is he the long-term answer at LT?
Or if Terron Armstead is the long-term answer at LT, is Brown a better option at RT than Zach Strief?
TIA.
Or if Terron Armstead is the long-term answer at LT, is Brown a better option at RT than Zach Strief?
TIA.
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:03 pm to L.A.
Armstead is the future at LT.
Strief is fine to me right now, but we might look for another.
Or maybe Harris will eclipse him.
Strief is fine to me right now, but we might look for another.
Or maybe Harris will eclipse him.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:05 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:What about Brown at RT? Too light? He's listed at 297 and usually RT's are maulers.
Strief is fine to me right now, but we might look for another.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:14 pm to L.A.
Yeah, Strief has a bit of weight on Brown.
Brown is good, but I think he might just be holding the spot at this point.
Brown is good, but I think he might just be holding the spot at this point.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:23 pm to L.A.
he's doing ok but its in my hopes that armstead can soon be an upgrade.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:46 pm to L.A.
He went to USC - he's doing terribly.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 1:53 pm to L.A.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 2:01 pm to geauxtigers87
Posted on 9/26/13 at 2:06 pm to L.A.
Brown is incredibly mediocre, but so is our whole o-line right now. Armstead may be the long-term solution, but he is a project. The fact that Payton hasn't put him out there, even with all our o-line woes, is saying something.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 2:11 pm to geauxtigers87
Brown will be UDFA so there should be some understanding between & the team as to what the future is. For him, it is all predicated on his performance this year.
So after the season-
*Charlie we wanna lock you up long term
*We're gonna go Franchise Tag for a year to be sure ($9.8mil 2013) before going long term
*offer a non bank breaking deal- like the 2yr Bushrod deal
*We're gonna go in a different direction Charlie (Armstead in)
Beyond the money, he prolly is more interested in security. A deal but having to compete against Armstead yearly vs. "You da man!" It's an established fact that some good O-linmen come out of the Saints system. Chargers just signed Tiller to PS. Castoff Jeremy Parnell has gotten decent reps in Dallas, etc.
After 3 games I'd say moderate deal offered like Bushrod's extension. Prolly depends as much on what they see in Armstead as Brown's performance. He's locked in thru 2016 with cap hit never reaching $900K
So after the season-
*Charlie we wanna lock you up long term
*We're gonna go Franchise Tag for a year to be sure ($9.8mil 2013) before going long term
*offer a non bank breaking deal- like the 2yr Bushrod deal
*We're gonna go in a different direction Charlie (Armstead in)
Beyond the money, he prolly is more interested in security. A deal but having to compete against Armstead yearly vs. "You da man!" It's an established fact that some good O-linmen come out of the Saints system. Chargers just signed Tiller to PS. Castoff Jeremy Parnell has gotten decent reps in Dallas, etc.
After 3 games I'd say moderate deal offered like Bushrod's extension. Prolly depends as much on what they see in Armstead as Brown's performance. He's locked in thru 2016 with cap hit never reaching $900K
Posted on 9/26/13 at 2:13 pm to blueslover
quote:I think this is what we're looking at.
After 3 games I'd say moderate deal offered like Bushrod's extension. Prolly depends as much on what they see in Armstead as Brown's performance. He's locked in thru 2016 with cap hit never reaching $900K
He's gonna back up Armstead going forward.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 2:51 pm to blueslover
quote:I liked what I saw of Tiller in preseason. I was surprised that we didn't sign him to the PS.
Chargers just signed Tiller to PS.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 3:11 pm to L.A.
I .... well I don't know. I never really focus on the offensive line, on run plays I watch them a bit. It looks to me that the run blocking is not so good all the way across. I guess I'm more interested in how they protect Brees. So far, not too bad.
This post was edited on 9/26/13 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 9/26/13 at 3:39 pm to BGSB
quote:
I .... well I don't know. I never really focus on the offensive line, on run plays I watch them a bit. It looks to me that the run blocking is not so good all the way across. I guess I'm more interested in how they protect Brees. So far, not too bad.
Have you watched a Saints game this year? Drew's been sacked 10 times in 3 games. He was sacked 26 times total last year.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 3:45 pm to L.A.
He has played fairly well so far. He's not the long term answer here, but he is more than serviceable, along with Strief. Armstead should be the man next season, and hopefully the long term answer. He's has a much higher ceiling than Brown.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 3:45 pm to BGSB
Posted on 9/26/13 at 3:55 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
Armstead is the future at LT.
You are awefully sure Hoodoo. I haven't seen anything that makes me think Armstead is such an upgrade over Brown. He was giving the opportunity in camp and Brown won out.
That being said, I'll agree that Charles Brown is mediocre. Not great. Not terrible. I'd take an upgrade if one was available.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 4:33 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:Would definitely be nice, but you seem to have a lot of confidence in Armstead. I know he's just a rookie and can improve but he may not and Brown has looked decent at least. Nothing to wow you but not horrible either.
He's gonna back up Armstead going forward.
Posted on 9/26/13 at 4:33 pm to L.A.
As to the future who the hell knows. Who steps up next year is a total unknown. The best we have are starting for us now.
As to Brown he seems to be doing well in pass but vs the run he seems to not dominate at all. Unlike many I like Strief at RT and he doesn't cost much.
CSP will open most of the o-line to a lot of competition next year. Grubbs is very high dollar for performance. DLP has struggled early. Evans injured. Brown a FA. Could be a lot of turnover.
Its early yet and I hope for improvement. O-line coach needs to earn his money!
As to Brown he seems to be doing well in pass but vs the run he seems to not dominate at all. Unlike many I like Strief at RT and he doesn't cost much.
CSP will open most of the o-line to a lot of competition next year. Grubbs is very high dollar for performance. DLP has struggled early. Evans injured. Brown a FA. Could be a lot of turnover.
Its early yet and I hope for improvement. O-line coach needs to earn his money!
Posted on 9/26/13 at 4:36 pm to chillygentilly
quote:
The fact that Payton hasn't put him out there, even with all our o-line woes, is saying something.
our interior line has been failing us, not the tackles
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