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re: What could Strief fetch us in a trade?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:22 am to mindbreaker
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:22 am to mindbreaker
The rookie pay scales have changed since then I believe though.
So rookie contracts are more valuable than before I believe (could be wrong)
So rookie contracts are more valuable than before I believe (could be wrong)
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:38 am to TPecoraro23
have a downvote
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:31 am to mindbreaker
Props for looking it up. There's other examples too, but it's rare an over 30 player, unless exceptional (and while Strief has been very good Brees does help with his pocket presence), goes for more than a 5th. 99% of the time teams rather roll the dice in the draft than get a vet on his last legs.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:26 pm to Chad504boy
Let's cut to the chase right now.
1) Strief is a better pass blocker because Brees releases the ball quickly.
2) Strief might retire before playing for another team.
Years ago there was some talk about a trade to the Dolphins
Strief told the FO that he would retire. He took less money to make his contract more attract to the FO to keep him. He loves New Orleans and he loves his teammates. He enjoys being around them.
1) Strief is a better pass blocker because Brees releases the ball quickly.
2) Strief might retire before playing for another team.
Years ago there was some talk about a trade to the Dolphins
Strief told the FO that he would retire. He took less money to make his contract more attract to the FO to keep him. He loves New Orleans and he loves his teammates. He enjoys being around them.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:30 pm to bonethug0108
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Props for looking it up.
I mean I'm not breauxmo I try not to just pull random baseless facts out of my arse.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:38 pm to bconne1
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Elite?
Elite?
You’re a fan and I get that, but you can’t really think he’s been elite.
I mean, if you consider being top 5 at your position for the last few years elite...then yes, Strief has been elite. He's even been the #1 RT before.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:41 pm to bonethug0108
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There's this certain barrier teams perceive between a 4th and a 5th and you can look at all the trades involving players and picks and those rounds and see the difference in what a 4th is valued as vs. a 5th.
There's a big dropoff from the 2nd-3rd round, & a big dropoff from the 4th-5th round imo.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:24 pm to Pastalaya
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have a downvote
have a nice day??
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:09 pm to GMoney2600
quote:By what metric was he top 5? He was an All-Pro...once.
I mean, if you consider being top 5 at your position for the last few years elite...then yes,
I have to give you boys credit, you go down with your ship. I think he's a solid player, but to say a one-time All-Pro who was never selected to a Pro Bowl is elite...I think that's a bit homerish.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:54 pm to bconne1
Pretty sure he's been a top 5 RT for the last few years, besides 2 years ago when he was dinged up all year. This is pretty common knowledge.
Don't recall exactly how he did in 2013 & prior to that, but I remember him being pretty good. I think 2014 was his best year when he was ranked #1, 2015 he was banged up, & last year he was top 5(also easily our best O-Lineman last year). Our O-Line also went to shite after he got hurt during the Vikings game this year. We replaced him with Kelemete & it was pretty bad.
LINK This is from 2014. I couldn't find any individual rankings though.
Stud: No denying that Zach Strief is among the most reliable right tackles in the league and he proved it again with another solid season.
LINK From 2015, He was the #9 ranked RT in his injured season.
Pass Protection
32/45
At this point in Zach Strief's career, pass protection doesn't come easy. He has to be efficient with his pass-protection technique to have consistent success against the NFL's dynamic pass-rushers.
Strief is at his best when he can set firm and get his hands on defenders to end the fight early, but he can expand his set points and get to his landmark to punch and anchor rushers who are attempting to get upfield. Where he struggles is in facing wide edge-rushers with an elite first step, as it puts constant strain on him to get vertical and set his feet.
Strief still shows the patience and punch timing to deliver a violent strike and the overall strength to consistently anchor, though. He does a good job of maintaining depth relationship to pass off line games and displays the mental processing and awareness to sort through pressures.
Run Blocking
41/45
Even at 32, Strief is still a mauler in the run game and plays with good physicality. He has great square power and generally explodes out of his stance, quickly engaging to hit, lift and drive defenders off the point of attack on base blocks or angled drive blocks. There are times, though, when he plays with too much weight forward and stops his feet, resulting in him falling off blocks.
Strief violently collapses 3-techniques on deuce blocks when he is the post man and is able to stand defenders up on combo and duo double-teams. He does a good job of climbing to the second level and fitting up on linebackers as well. His biggest issue on film is in cutting off the backside when runs go away from him.
LINK From 2016. He was healthy this year & was ranked as the #18 overall OL(not just RT).
18. ZACH STRIEF, RT, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS (86.1)
Right tackles have been outperformed by their left-sided teammates, despite (or because of?) some of the league’s most dominant pass-rushers coming from their side of the line. Zach Strief has gone up against some of the league’s best edge defenders this season, and allowed 19 total QB pressures, with just three penalties to his name; he has earned good grades in all facets of the game.
Don't recall exactly how he did in 2013 & prior to that, but I remember him being pretty good. I think 2014 was his best year when he was ranked #1, 2015 he was banged up, & last year he was top 5(also easily our best O-Lineman last year). Our O-Line also went to shite after he got hurt during the Vikings game this year. We replaced him with Kelemete & it was pretty bad.
LINK This is from 2014. I couldn't find any individual rankings though.
Stud: No denying that Zach Strief is among the most reliable right tackles in the league and he proved it again with another solid season.
LINK From 2015, He was the #9 ranked RT in his injured season.
Pass Protection
32/45
At this point in Zach Strief's career, pass protection doesn't come easy. He has to be efficient with his pass-protection technique to have consistent success against the NFL's dynamic pass-rushers.
Strief is at his best when he can set firm and get his hands on defenders to end the fight early, but he can expand his set points and get to his landmark to punch and anchor rushers who are attempting to get upfield. Where he struggles is in facing wide edge-rushers with an elite first step, as it puts constant strain on him to get vertical and set his feet.
Strief still shows the patience and punch timing to deliver a violent strike and the overall strength to consistently anchor, though. He does a good job of maintaining depth relationship to pass off line games and displays the mental processing and awareness to sort through pressures.
Run Blocking
41/45
Even at 32, Strief is still a mauler in the run game and plays with good physicality. He has great square power and generally explodes out of his stance, quickly engaging to hit, lift and drive defenders off the point of attack on base blocks or angled drive blocks. There are times, though, when he plays with too much weight forward and stops his feet, resulting in him falling off blocks.
Strief violently collapses 3-techniques on deuce blocks when he is the post man and is able to stand defenders up on combo and duo double-teams. He does a good job of climbing to the second level and fitting up on linebackers as well. His biggest issue on film is in cutting off the backside when runs go away from him.
LINK From 2016. He was healthy this year & was ranked as the #18 overall OL(not just RT).
18. ZACH STRIEF, RT, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS (86.1)
Right tackles have been outperformed by their left-sided teammates, despite (or because of?) some of the league’s most dominant pass-rushers coming from their side of the line. Zach Strief has gone up against some of the league’s best edge defenders this season, and allowed 19 total QB pressures, with just three penalties to his name; he has earned good grades in all facets of the game.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:08 pm to CoeJ
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From people I know that know him well, he's on the verge of retirement. Probably why we drafted Ram.
Wouldn't surprise me, I think the pay raise Saints gave him this offseason was to ensure he stayed around this season.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:44 pm to TPecoraro23
Do you watch many Saints games ?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:52 pm to TPecoraro23
Chopsley has no trade value. Plus, he plays a passable right tackle.
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