- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Saints Ranked 7th Best O-Line (PFF)
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:18 pm
Pro Football Focus
List is BS.
quote:
7. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS PROJECTED STARTING LINEUP: Left Tackle: Terron Armstead Left Guard: Andrus Peat Center: Erik McCoy Right Guard: Larry Warford Right Tackle: Ryan Ramczyk The Saints have one of the best tackle combinations in the league between Terron Armstead and Ryan Ramczyk, who both finished with overall grades above 80.0 in 2018. However, all attention will be on the interior line to improve, especially with former center Max Unger retiring. Improved play from Andrus Peat and contributions from rookie Erik McCoy could see this unit rise to the top of this list by seasons end.
List is BS.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:02 pm to SnoopALoop
7 is too low, but there are concerns.
Does TA stay healthy? Can McCoy be as productive as his all pro predecessor? Can Peat settle in and reach his potential?
Interior push is Bress's weakness. Always has been, which is why SP has put a premium on g/c play since he Got here.
That said, I still think we are top 5, easy.
Does TA stay healthy? Can McCoy be as productive as his all pro predecessor? Can Peat settle in and reach his potential?
Interior push is Bress's weakness. Always has been, which is why SP has put a premium on g/c play since he Got here.
That said, I still think we are top 5, easy.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 4:39 pm to SnoopALoop
Eh... I think any time you lose a fantastic center like Unger and are replacing him with a couple of question marks, you're gonna get dinged in articles like this. At the end of the day though, it's not like they get an advantage in the games for having a higher rank, so I don't really care.
EDIT: Side note.... did anyone else check to see where Ingram's new O-Line was ranked? I know I did.
EDIT: Side note.... did anyone else check to see where Ingram's new O-Line was ranked? I know I did.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 4:54 pm to SnoopALoop
This is consistent with their OL ratings from last year.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:21 pm to SnoopALoop
We're #1. They can fight me
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:33 am to SnoopALoop
quote:
Improved play from Andrus Peat and contributions from rookie Erik McCoy could see this unit rise to the top of this list by seasons end.
Seems very fair to me with this statement.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:36 am to SnoopALoop
I think we had the best OL in the league until we had injuries. After the injuries I wouldn’t even say we were top 10. We were pretty bad at OL down the stretch in a lot of games.
We got dominated up front against Dallas, Philly and LA. They have good fronts but healthy we should be able to handle them. And we didn’t. Every single OL we had suffered a decent sized injury. Armstead was probably 50% and so was Unger. Unger has been battling injuries the last two years but has been a badass and played through them. It’s the main reason he retired. He was worn out and a shell of himself. Peat battled injuries all year and had a down year anyway. Ram got hurt later in the year as well but played through it. I think Warford was the only one without a pretty decent injury.
And our depth was shite after Bushrod got hurt and never returned. That and a lack of a third option out of Kamara/Thomas were the reasons we really struggled. Those guys just didn’t play as well as they did early in the year. They mauled a really good Eagles and Bengals D Line and then we started getting hit with injuries and they were never the same. If we want to have success they HAVE to stay healthy outside of some bumps and bruises. And McCoy has to play well. Those things happen and we have a chance to repeat our success from 2018
We got dominated up front against Dallas, Philly and LA. They have good fronts but healthy we should be able to handle them. And we didn’t. Every single OL we had suffered a decent sized injury. Armstead was probably 50% and so was Unger. Unger has been battling injuries the last two years but has been a badass and played through them. It’s the main reason he retired. He was worn out and a shell of himself. Peat battled injuries all year and had a down year anyway. Ram got hurt later in the year as well but played through it. I think Warford was the only one without a pretty decent injury.
And our depth was shite after Bushrod got hurt and never returned. That and a lack of a third option out of Kamara/Thomas were the reasons we really struggled. Those guys just didn’t play as well as they did early in the year. They mauled a really good Eagles and Bengals D Line and then we started getting hit with injuries and they were never the same. If we want to have success they HAVE to stay healthy outside of some bumps and bruises. And McCoy has to play well. Those things happen and we have a chance to repeat our success from 2018
Posted on 7/12/19 at 3:01 am to Dave Worth
Peat really had a down year. He really needs a bounce back year. Ram and Armstead just need to stay healthy, especially Armstead. Warford is solid. It really just comes down to Peat and McCoy. We have our Kelemete in Nick Easton. If McCoy can step up and play well and so can Peat, we should dominate again and if we have any bumps and bruises where guys need to take a game or two off then Easton can come in and be solid for us. Marshall Newhouse is an underrated signing and can be decent for an emergency backup Tackle.
This is the best OL depth we’ve had as long as Peat/McCoy play well. It’s really up to them. I think Peat will bounce back but I’m not sure with McCoy. You never know with Rookies
This is the best OL depth we’ve had as long as Peat/McCoy play well. It’s really up to them. I think Peat will bounce back but I’m not sure with McCoy. You never know with Rookies
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:48 am to Laaz2750
quote:
Eh... I think any time you lose a fantastic center like Unger and are replacing him with a couple of question marks, you're gonna get dinged in articles like this.
We are dinged due to Armstead's health bc his inevitable injury forces everyone out of a place of strength
Mccoy is an upgrade to the Unger of last season
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:54 am to GynoSandberg
quote:
Mccoy is an upgrade to the Unger of last season
I hope so, but you can’t say this for sure until we see him on the field.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:17 pm to Laaz2750
I’m excited about McCoy, but I hate talk like this. Unger was all pro, and even as he aged, we never really worried about him.
McCoy has some big shoes to fill. I’m really excited about the athleticism he brings to the position.
McCoy has some big shoes to fill. I’m really excited about the athleticism he brings to the position.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 3:17 pm to Vacherie Saint
Unger’s performance significantly dropped off in ‘17 and ‘18 with the injuries. It’s ok to say, it’s the literal reason he retired
McCoy is a definite upgrade in the run and he’s not too shabby in the pass
McCoy is a definite upgrade in the run and he’s not too shabby in the pass
quote:
C Erik McCoy had 35 games in his college career with 30+ pass blocking snaps - He pitched a pressure shutout in 22 of them.
In total, he had just 19 total pressures allowed on 1,528 pass blocking opportunities at Texas A&M
Posted on 7/12/19 at 4:12 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
McCoy is a definite upgrade in the run and he’s not too shabby in the pass
He’s yet to take an NFL snap.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 4:31 pm to Vacherie Saint
So what? Check the tape bubba. 3 year starter in the SEC putting up those type of numbers in the pass and Run. Outside of the physical gifts he’s being lauded for his film work and technique
Kyler Murray hasn’t taken a snap. Is Brett Hundley better because he has? Nick bosa and Devin white aren’t better than the incumbents ?
Kyler Murray hasn’t taken a snap. Is Brett Hundley better because he has? Nick bosa and Devin white aren’t better than the incumbents ?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 5:10 pm to Vacherie Saint
Unger was an All Pro and top 5 center before 2017 and 2018. He had some lower body issues that significantly held him back. Him and Peat and Warford really really struggled both playoff games last year. And it was because Peat and Unger were never really healthy and therefore their play declined significantly.
Unger was an important leader in the locker room and he has all my respect for playing through injuries that basically forced him to retire but he did not play that well. I’m not saying McCoy is going to step right in and be better, but that’s the expectation and he’s been with the 1’s for almost all of OTA’s.
Unger was an important leader in the locker room and he has all my respect for playing through injuries that basically forced him to retire but he did not play that well. I’m not saying McCoy is going to step right in and be better, but that’s the expectation and he’s been with the 1’s for almost all of OTA’s.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 6:44 pm to GynoSandberg
Dude settle the frick down.
You can't know what you dont know. Those first rounders could easily be much worse than the incumbents they are replacing. shite, arizona just dumped last years first round qb for Murray. Only time will tell. Remember Lindsay Scott, Vaughn Dunbar, Shawn Knight, and John Sullivan?
Why must you always act like such an insufferable bitch on here?
You can't know what you dont know. Those first rounders could easily be much worse than the incumbents they are replacing. shite, arizona just dumped last years first round qb for Murray. Only time will tell. Remember Lindsay Scott, Vaughn Dunbar, Shawn Knight, and John Sullivan?
Why must you always act like such an insufferable bitch on here?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 6:57 pm to Vacherie Saint
More often than not, O Lineman tend to live up to expectation, even if that’s just being a viable starter. The statistics trend that way. There are some busts but not as many as other positions
I don’t think anyone is expecting peak Unger here. Not in year 1. But I don’t think Gyno is far off from saying McCoy is most likely an upgrade. You also have to remember we hit on almost all of our OL picks
I don’t think anyone is expecting peak Unger here. Not in year 1. But I don’t think Gyno is far off from saying McCoy is most likely an upgrade. You also have to remember we hit on almost all of our OL picks
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:08 pm to WicKed WayZ
No. Hes saying McCoy is a definite upgrade over Max Unger and it's not debatable. That can't be proven.
I like McCoy, and am excited we got him and like you, I believe he has stud written all over him. Can we at least see him in camp before we start saying he's better than Unger? Is that asking too much? This isnt Saints Report.
I like McCoy, and am excited we got him and like you, I believe he has stud written all over him. Can we at least see him in camp before we start saying he's better than Unger? Is that asking too much? This isnt Saints Report.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:47 pm to Vacherie Saint
He has been seen in OTAs and the reports have been glowing
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News