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Saints Free Agents...who would you keep?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:10 pm
UFA
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:13 pm to saintsfan22
I agree. The old man gave us a couple of good years, but it's time.
A must have for me is J.T. Gray...ST demon. Vonn Bell as well.
A must have for me is J.T. Gray...ST demon. Vonn Bell as well.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:17 pm to GMoney2600
UFA
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:17 pm to GMoney2600
Brees
Line
Onyemata (may get too expensive though)
Klein (really came on strong this year)
Apple (as long as he doesn't think too highly of himself)
Williams
Bell
Hill
Line
Onyemata (may get too expensive though)
Klein (really came on strong this year)
Apple (as long as he doesn't think too highly of himself)
Williams
Bell
Hill
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:27 pm to GMoney2600
Peat, Apple, Bell
That’s it
Also, to the poster above, PJ Williams is TRASH and needs to go.
That’s it
Also, to the poster above, PJ Williams is TRASH and needs to go.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:28 pm to GMoney2600
Brees
Line
Omameh
Onyemata
Klein
Te'o for cheap
Bell
Swearinger b/c why not
Taysom
Tom
Wood
Gray
I'd like to upgrade Dwayne Washington
Line
Omameh
Onyemata
Klein
Te'o for cheap
Bell
Swearinger b/c why not
Taysom
Tom
Wood
Gray
I'd like to upgrade Dwayne Washington
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:36 pm to GMoney2600
Obviously depends on contract, etc.
UFA
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
Would love for Teddy to come back, but that’s not happening.
I’d take Eli Apple at the right price. But it would be a low price and he’d probably be my dime back behind Lattimore, Jenkins & CGJ.
Peat...maybe vet minimum to back up my OT/OG draft pick. Maybe. Not likely. But maybe. Not that I’d like it. But at vet minimum, maybe.
I think CSP loves Ginn, so I expect him to be back.
UFA
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
Would love for Teddy to come back, but that’s not happening.
I’d take Eli Apple at the right price. But it would be a low price and he’d probably be my dime back behind Lattimore, Jenkins & CGJ.
Peat...maybe vet minimum to back up my OT/OG draft pick. Maybe. Not likely. But maybe. Not that I’d like it. But at vet minimum, maybe.
I think CSP loves Ginn, so I expect him to be back.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:45 pm to Tigerbait337
Peat is TRASH and needs to go baw.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:50 pm to GMoney2600
He's easy to overlook, but everyone should have J.T. Gray on their list. He's, literally, the biggest lock on the entire list.
I love ERFA's that are legit.
I love ERFA's that are legit.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:52 pm to GMoney2600
UFA
QB Drew Brees His contract forces us to, if we don't sign we'd be hit for about $16M
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat At low end starter money. He'd be great depth, but they need to find someone else to start at LG
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
QB Drew Brees His contract forces us to, if we don't sign we'd be hit for about $16M
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat At low end starter money. He'd be great depth, but they need to find someone else to start at LG
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 5:28 pm to Suntiger
quote:
I think CSP loves Ginn, so I expect him to be back.
Maybe, this draft has a lot of receiver talent, even beyond the 1st rd guys. Would think a 3-4th RD guy in this draft could easily match Ginn’s production.
I can’t see guys like Ginn being that expensive. Who would pay more than the minimum for him at this point?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 5:37 pm to GMoney2600
How much you think it will take to keep Hill?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 5:53 pm to MetArl15
quote:
How much you think it will take to keep Hill?
1st or 2nd round tender. 2nd round tender is like 3.3 mil & a 1st round tender is less than 5.0 mil.
Another team can steal him away if they want him a lot more than we do though, but we would get either that 1st or 2nd round pick in return.
RFA's are kind of tricky compared to the other 2 kind of free agents.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 5:56 pm to windshieldman
quote:
I'd like to upgrade Dwayne Washington
I agree. He runs hard, but that's about it. We need a legit RB as our #3.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:06 pm to GMoney2600
Requires too much thought from me at this time of day. . .
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:21 pm to VOR
This article has different ERFA's listed... LINK
No specifics yet for Saints' free agency hopes, but meetings slowly starting
New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton didn't divulge specifics Tuesday about what position groups he and general manager Mickey Loomis want to prioritize for 2020, but those meetings are slowly getting scheduled.
On Monday, Payton said, a brief meeting was held regarding the team's 25 free agents, but nothing beyond that has been done.
"I always think it's best that there's time that takes place between the last game, and even when you begin to do what we do next, I think it's important that there's some time in between that because you want to really give the true evaluation of your roster," Payton said.
Many of those discussions pertaining to free agency, as well as NFL draft prospects, will take place in the next two or three weeks, Payton said.
The 25 free agents they had on the roster at the end of the season fall into three categories: unrestricted, restricted and exclusive-rights free agents.
The ERFAs are special teamer J.T. Gray, wide receiver Keith Kirkwood, defensive tackle Taylor Stallworth, wide receiver Lil'Jordan Humphrey, fullback Ricky Ortiz and linebacker Colton Jumper.
The RFAs are athlete Taysom Hill, long snapper Zach Wood, wide receiver Austin Carr, special teamer Justin Hardee and offensive lineman Cameron Tom.
The UFAs are quarterback Drew Brees, safety Vonn Bell, cornerback Eli Apple, guard Andrus Peat, linebacker A.J. Klein, defensive tackle David Onyemata, cornerback P.J. Williams, wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr., fullback Zach Line, quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, running back Dwayne Washington, guard Patrick Omameh, linebacker Stephone Anthony, linebacker Manti Te'o, safety D.J. Swearinger, cornerback Johnson Bademosi, defensive end Noah Spence and linebacker Josh Martin.
"All of those players will be guys that we spend a lot of time on," Payton said, "and hopefully make the right decisions on.”
Payton added later, "We'll spend a lot of time on those decisions. Those are never easy. You have a fixed budget. There's no luxury tax. You can't overspend if you choose to. So those will be the things we deal with here in the next coming weeks."
The Saints will start the roster-building process by looking at their own free agents first, then looking around to other free agents around the league, then to the incoming rookie class.
One of the biggest Saints storylines heading into free agency is how all three of New Orleans' quarterbacks are free agents. Brees and Bridgewater are both unrestricted free agents, while Hill is a restricted free agent.
Payton, roughly 48 hours after Sunday's kickoff, said the team hasn't "gotten that far" in deliberations regarding the future.
"I like the perfect-world scenario, and yet we don't live in one," Payton said of keeping all three.
Payton said it's too early to start conversations regarding Brees' future, quipping, "I just finished talking to him five minutes ago and it was about something else. It was about LSU tickets."
Brees — who could, in theory, retire after this season — is a wild card, but Hill is even moreso. Because Hill is a restricted free agent, there's a little more nuance to his situation.
Restricted free agents can have first-round, second-round or original-round tender placed on them. Hill, and every restricted free agent, can negotiate with other teams, but the Saints have an option to match any deal and will receive a selection corresponding with the tender placed on the RFA if New Orleans opted not to match the offer.
But Hill is a rare breed, since he plays at least seven positions — quarterback, wide receiver, tight end, fullback, kick/punt returner, gunner, on the punt-blocking unit, etc. — so it's not yet clear what the market demand will be for him.
"It's a little bit of an enigma," Payton said. "I mean, my understanding is you can't find a spot for him on your fantasy roster, so it's probably difficult (in) reality."
No specifics yet for Saints' free agency hopes, but meetings slowly starting
New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton didn't divulge specifics Tuesday about what position groups he and general manager Mickey Loomis want to prioritize for 2020, but those meetings are slowly getting scheduled.
On Monday, Payton said, a brief meeting was held regarding the team's 25 free agents, but nothing beyond that has been done.
"I always think it's best that there's time that takes place between the last game, and even when you begin to do what we do next, I think it's important that there's some time in between that because you want to really give the true evaluation of your roster," Payton said.
Many of those discussions pertaining to free agency, as well as NFL draft prospects, will take place in the next two or three weeks, Payton said.
The 25 free agents they had on the roster at the end of the season fall into three categories: unrestricted, restricted and exclusive-rights free agents.
The ERFAs are special teamer J.T. Gray, wide receiver Keith Kirkwood, defensive tackle Taylor Stallworth, wide receiver Lil'Jordan Humphrey, fullback Ricky Ortiz and linebacker Colton Jumper.
The RFAs are athlete Taysom Hill, long snapper Zach Wood, wide receiver Austin Carr, special teamer Justin Hardee and offensive lineman Cameron Tom.
The UFAs are quarterback Drew Brees, safety Vonn Bell, cornerback Eli Apple, guard Andrus Peat, linebacker A.J. Klein, defensive tackle David Onyemata, cornerback P.J. Williams, wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr., fullback Zach Line, quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, running back Dwayne Washington, guard Patrick Omameh, linebacker Stephone Anthony, linebacker Manti Te'o, safety D.J. Swearinger, cornerback Johnson Bademosi, defensive end Noah Spence and linebacker Josh Martin.
"All of those players will be guys that we spend a lot of time on," Payton said, "and hopefully make the right decisions on.”
Payton added later, "We'll spend a lot of time on those decisions. Those are never easy. You have a fixed budget. There's no luxury tax. You can't overspend if you choose to. So those will be the things we deal with here in the next coming weeks."
The Saints will start the roster-building process by looking at their own free agents first, then looking around to other free agents around the league, then to the incoming rookie class.
One of the biggest Saints storylines heading into free agency is how all three of New Orleans' quarterbacks are free agents. Brees and Bridgewater are both unrestricted free agents, while Hill is a restricted free agent.
Payton, roughly 48 hours after Sunday's kickoff, said the team hasn't "gotten that far" in deliberations regarding the future.
"I like the perfect-world scenario, and yet we don't live in one," Payton said of keeping all three.
Payton said it's too early to start conversations regarding Brees' future, quipping, "I just finished talking to him five minutes ago and it was about something else. It was about LSU tickets."
Brees — who could, in theory, retire after this season — is a wild card, but Hill is even moreso. Because Hill is a restricted free agent, there's a little more nuance to his situation.
Restricted free agents can have first-round, second-round or original-round tender placed on them. Hill, and every restricted free agent, can negotiate with other teams, but the Saints have an option to match any deal and will receive a selection corresponding with the tender placed on the RFA if New Orleans opted not to match the offer.
But Hill is a rare breed, since he plays at least seven positions — quarterback, wide receiver, tight end, fullback, kick/punt returner, gunner, on the punt-blocking unit, etc. — so it's not yet clear what the market demand will be for him.
"It's a little bit of an enigma," Payton said. "I mean, my understanding is you can't find a spot for him on your fantasy roster, so it's probably difficult (in) reality."
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:56 pm to GMoney2600
quote:
UFA
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
WR Ted Ginn
OL Andrus Peat
Ol Patrick Omameh
DT David Onyemata
DE Noah Spence
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te'o
LB Stephone Anthony
LB Josh Martin
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Johnson Bademosi
SS Vonn Bell
SS D.J. Swearinger
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
WR Austin Carr
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
LB Colton Jumper
FS J.T. Gray
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:02 pm to GMoney2600
quote:
UFA
QB Drew Brees - sign and trade
QB Teddy Bridgewater - let walk
RB Dwayne Washington - cya
FB Zach Line - cya
WR Ted Ginn - cya
OL Andrus Peat - sign
Ol Patrick Omameh - sign
DT David Onyemata - sign
DE Noah Spence - cya
LB A.J. Klein - sign
LB Manti Te'o - lol
LB Stephone Anthony - sign
LB Josh Martin - cya
CB Eli Apple - sign
CB P.J. Williams - cya
CB Johnson Bademosi - sign
SS Vonn Bell - sign
SS D.J. Swearinger - sign
RFA
QB Taysom Hill - starter
WR Austin Carr - cya
OC/OG Cameron Tom - sign
LS Zach Wood - why not
CB Justin Hardee - sign
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood - cya
LB Colton Jumper - cya
FS J.T. Gray - cya
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:08 pm to GMoney2600
quote:
UFA
QB Drew Brees
RB Dwayne Washington
FB Zach Line
DT David Onyemata
LB A.J. Klein
LB Manti Te’o
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
SS Vonn Bell
quote:
RFA
QB Taysom Hill
OC/OG Cameron Tom
LS Zach Wood
CB Justin Hardee
quote:
ERFA
WR Keith Kirkwood
FS J.T. Gray
Some of those, like Klein and Apple depend on how much it would cost, and some like Teddy I know we aren’t going to pay enough to keep.
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