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Matt Miller's Final Big Board

Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted by BenDover78
Member since Mar 2020
305 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted b/c I think Miller along w/ Daniel Jeremiah are the best in the draft business

1. Chase Young, EDGE, Ohio State (99/100)

2. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (96)

3. Jeff Okudah, CB, Ohio State (96)

4. Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson (95)

5. Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama (95)

6. Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (94)

7. Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama (94)

8. Derrick Brown, IDL, Auburn (94)

9. K'Lavon Chaisson, EDGE, LSU (93)

10. Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa (93)

11. Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama (93)

12. CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma (93)

13. C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida (93)

14. Javon Kinlaw, IDL, South Carolina (93)

15. D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia (92)

16. Patrick Queen, LB, LSU (91)

17. Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (91)

18. Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (91)

19. Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma (90)

20. Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU (90)

21. Yetur Gross-Matos, EDGE, Penn State (89)

22. Xavier McKinney, DS, Alabama (89)

23. A.J. Epenesa, IDL, Iowa (89)

24. Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU (89)

25. Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU (89)

26. Cesar Ruiz, IOL, Michigan (89)

27. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon (89)

28. Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson (89)

29. Antoine Winfield Jr., DS, Minnesota (88)

30. Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin (88)

31. Jordan Love, QB, Utah State (88)

32. Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin (88)

33. Jordyn Brooks, LB, Texas Tech (88)

34. Josh Jones, OT, Houston (88)

35. Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah (88)

36. A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson (88)

37. Marlon Davidson, IDL, Auburn (87)

38. Austin Jackson, OT, USC (87)

39. Ross Blacklock, IDL, TCU (87)

40. Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State (87)

41. Kyle Dugger, DS, Lenoir Rhyne (87)

42. Jeremy Chinn, DS, Southern Illinois (87)

43. J.K. Dobbins, RB, Ohio State (86)

44. Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (86)

45. Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC (86)

46. KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State (86)

47. Trevon Diggs, CB Alabama (86)

48. Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU (86)

49. Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame (86)

50. Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU (86)

Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:00 pm to
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27. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon (89)

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:04 pm to
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33. Jordyn Brooks, LB, Texas Tech (88)


Interesting to see more and more big boards with him in the top 35...
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31461 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:04 pm to
I think it’s a very real possibility neither Queen or Murray are there at 24


Also, Jeremy Chinn is growing on me. His pro comp is Harrison Smith. Maybe not a guy at 24. But maybe someone we get back into the 2nd for.
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1365 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:08 pm to
I always quit reading when Derrick Brown is out of the top 5. Hes one of the few can’t miss prospects in this draft and is an absolute monster.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:14 pm to
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I always quit reading when Derrick Brown is out of the top 5. Hes one of the few can’t miss prospects in this draft and is an absolute monster.



The knocks for him is that he had a mediocre combine and doesn't project very well as an interior pass rusher.

Sure he can stuff the run, but most teams want to push the pocket and create pressure, especially if you are spending a Top 10 pick in draft capital.

You can usually wait to get a primary run-stuff later on.
Posted by BenDover78
Member since Mar 2020
305 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:19 pm to
Ross Blacklock is the most disruptive interior DL in this class. Heard it here first.

Queen/Murray debate feels like a few years ago when everyone was positive we were taking one of the bama DT's, Reed or Robinson, and both fell
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31461 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:20 pm to
Matt Miller is usually pretty spot on
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1365 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:21 pm to
I’m not sure where you’re getting your info from. This is from Jeremiah himself and if you watched him at all you know he can get after the qb.

He only had a mediocre combine if you follow glamor stats.

“He can shock ya. He’ll reset the line of scrimmage, find the football, [and] make a play. Then as a rusher it’s pure power. A combination of the power and effort jumps out as we see if working today. Again, 320 plus pounds changing direction. Not too bad. He won’t be waiting long. It’ll be a very happy team that gets him.”
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1365 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:22 pm to
I’m not knocking the guy. But Brown is probably the second best player in this draft.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

I’m not sure where you’re getting your info from. This is from Jeremiah himself and if you watched him at all you know he can get after the qb.

“He can shock ya. He’ll reset the line of scrimmage, find the football, [and] make a play. Then as a rusher it’s pure power. A combination of the power and effort jumps out as we see if working today. Again, 320 plus pounds changing direction. Not too bad. He won’t be waiting long. It’ll be a very happy team that gets him.”



I was just reading PFF's preview of him. I'm not saying I agree - it's just one data point.

It does make sense that everyone is looking for the next smaller, twitchy, pocket pusher like Aaron Donald (although it's a fool's errand but he's a generational freak). Ed Oliver is like a lesser version as well - the analytics guys do apeshite over QB pressures.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
2874 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Ross Blacklock is the most disruptive interior DL in this class. Heard it here first.


As a pass rusher yes but can’t stop the run lol
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10820 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

I always quit reading when Derrick Brown is out of the top 5. Hes one of the few can’t miss prospects in this draft and is an absolute monster.


Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31461 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

But Brown is probably the second best player in this draft.



He might be but other experts don’t agree. They rarely do. Brown could be the next dominant DT or he could just be another guy.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:30 pm to
People need to remember that over half of these guys in the first round, and like 70% of the rest of the draft...

They are going to be bums. Total bums.

People get so all up in arms about this guy and that guy (that they have likely not even watched) when in reality most of these guys will suck.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:30 pm to
It baffles me how over-valued edge rushers are. Don't get me wrong, they are important. But to rank one over a generational QB seems a bridge too far.

Chase Young could get 20 sacks next season and it wont add 2 wins to his team's end of season record. If Burrow can just throw for 20 TDs next year, the Bengals can win 6 games. NO ONE has more value than a franchise QB.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27025 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:31 pm to
Jonathan Taylor is going to be so good.
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
2874 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

It baffles me how over-valued edge rushers are. Don't get me wrong, they are important. But to rank one over a generational QB seems a bridge too far.


The ranking is based off their grade at their position. It doesn’t account for importance of the position.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:45 pm to
Its an overall prospect grade. Big boards attempt to rank players regardless of position or drafting team need. They are essentially saying that Young has more value than Burrow in a vacuum.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
28915 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:54 pm to
Might be the worst mock draft I've seen in my lifetime.

quote:

Matt Miller


Oh wait never mind. Not a surprise.
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