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drizztiger
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It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Payton Turner, DE, Houston - RAS of 9.74
Pete Werner, ILB, Ohio State - RAS of 9.49
Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford - RAS of 9.74


ned nederlander
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
And wing span. Saints want long player that can reach into passing lanes


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ezride25
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Who needs a corner that can cover anyway?


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philly444
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
fine ill ask... what is RAS?


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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Random Access Stiffs.

Reaches Above Sanity.

This post was edited on 4/30 at 9:26 pm


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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Random
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Selections


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Olric
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Really assenine selections


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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Raw And Stupid


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Lester Earl
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Most players drafted in the top 100 have good RAS


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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Relative Athletic Scores


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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Relative Athletic Score. They take everything you do at the combine and give you a score from 0-10.


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lil 7thward
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Relative athletic score.


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drizztiger
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
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Most players drafted in the top 100 have good RAS
Not my point.
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Pete Werner is a LB prospect in the 2021 draft class. He scored a 9.49 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 110 out of 2118 LB from 1987 to 2021.
More to my point.

I'm not suggesting it's right or wrong, with the analytics or strategy, but only Saints scouting.


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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Relative Athletic Score


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Lester Earl
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.

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I'm not suggesting it's right or wrong, with the analytics or strategy, but only Saints scouting.


I’m not saying it’s wrong either. It’s just a formula that measures the combine numbers.

RAS has been around forever. I’ve been posting scores for like 10 years here. If not directly RAS, then percentile ranking based on a two decade year old combine database.

The higher picks are naturally good athletes. They will have a high RAS. That’s all I’m saying. These guys picked in the top 100 that aren’t good athletes are major outliers.


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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Without looking at RAS scores, you can still look at all three of our picks and their numbers and come away knowing they’re pretty athletic and fit the prototype of each position we normally draft.

That and listening to all of their interviews...these are Payton’s type of guys. Hopefully Nielsen, Richard and Hodges can coach them up


drizztiger
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
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The higher picks are naturally good athletes. They will have a high RAS. That’s all I’m saying.
I get it, no worries.

RAS itself hasn't been around that long I don't think, but analytics have, which I believe is your point.

Just trying to point out RAS for Saints FO seems to have a higher value - along with what Wicked said being Payton/Saints type of guys - for the Saints fans that question why did they draft "that player".


Lester Earl
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
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RAS itself hasn't been around that long I don't think,


It has, for about 10 years. Maybe even longer but that is when I learned about his website

I think underhill just caught on this year though.


But RAS is position-adjusted. Players have always been scouted this way indirectly. Comparing results to their peers by position.


drizztiger
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
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It has, for about 10 years. Maybe even longer but that is when I learned about his website
Good to know. I've known RAS for about 5-6 years. You were an early adopter?

I was super early into KenPom - as an example - and it's easily mainstream now.


Lester Earl
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re: It's clear Saints value RAS.. a lot.
Yea I just used to use it because he had a nice comprehensive list of combine results. The actual score is kind of a novelty in my opinion, but I get it.

It gives the fans some context but teams know on the spot already how to interpret times & info based on past results

Not hating or anything. I just prefer to look at each individual number. It tells a better story


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