re: Is this good for us.

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How do you explain Kyle Orton and Curtis Painter?

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What does this have to do with anything?
Every school has bad players at certain positions.

Isn't it possible that the future crappiness probability for a position is higher at one school than other schools?

Well considering all of these qbs didn't have the same coaches, your statement doesn't mean anything in this particular discussion.

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why would we give a frick who drafts barkley. he suck.

are you implying that we might take him

dont be retarded

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or he was saying that another qb will be taken ahead of number 15 thus leaving more high quality players on the board...but go ahead and keep making an arse of yourself

Patrick o frick off. Can someone be a fan of both?

And I stand by my post. If you dwell on every fricking tweet and psychoanalyze what it could mean to the team and its draft positioning, then you need to get a grip.

Calm down Francis.

This. I don't want him just saying if he does go there that would be good for us . I also think Jarvis Jones will fall to us

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And I stand by my post

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Wasn't good enough humiliating yourself just that first time was it?

I know. It was awful, and he had the nerve to call the OP a retard.

as to the point of the original post- currently I'd give odds as this:

1 QB drafted before #15 90%
a 2nd QB before #15 50%
a 3rd QB before #15 25%

Certainly the more picked at any position we aren't targeting is better. Please take QBs, WRs, and interior OL. Don't be fooled by need though. Whether KC, AZ, Buff, or whoever, if there is a QB they want but not as high their draft spot then trades will happen. Those teams could trade back or trade up from their high 2nd rd spot.

Of course the more draft currency you have (picks) the more leverage you have. Here's the multiple teams with more than their standard picks in the first 3 Rds-

Cincy- two 2nds 37, 53
Miami- two 2nds & 3rds 42, 54, 77, 82
StL- two 1sts 16, 22
SF- two 3rds 74, 93

Likewise teams with less currency-

Carolina & Chicago- NO 3rd
Clev, Indy, Oak, & Saints- NO 2nd

Last year was typical. Out of the 32 draft spots only 14 were to the original owners of that spot. In other words, trades were more frequent than staying pat. 3 draft spots were traded more than once.