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WicKed WayZ
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If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Many of the good WRs are off the board as well as Fulton and Henderson at CB. Best available prospects are Queen and Murray.


Both have outstanding athletic traits, are both great in coverage, are both great blitzers and very versatile. Both project as instant starters. However, here are the knocks on both

Queen
-One year starter and started only 12 of 15 games
-Does he have physicality to get off blocks?

Murray
-Takes too many chances and misses on trying to make plays
-Instincts aren’t as good as Queen’s and struggles to diagnose at times even while being a three-year starter

I know hearing of Murray’s weaknesses reminds everyone of Stephane Anthony but I don’t think Murray is nearly as bad at reading, diagnosing and reacting. Still, it’s obvious Queen is a lot better in this area and could be something that keeps Murray from making a big impact in his rookie year.

However, Queen was kept clean a lot at LSU and didn’t have to take on many blocks while there. My question with him, does he have enough physicality to take on and shed blocks, which is something Murray has in spades? Murray is much bigger and just as fast. Deion Jones was also a one year starter at LSU and look at what he’s turned into. He had a big impact in Atlanta in his first year and it seems like Queen could play any of the LB spots. Murray seems like he’s best at WLB, which is where Davis is. Could this also be a deciding factor?

So who would you go with?


Chalkywhite84
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re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Queen
Murray scares me with the way he over runs plays


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Ryan3232
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re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
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Instincts aren’t as good as Queen’s
See this was my biggest knock on Queen early last year was that he seemed to be hitting the wrong hole a lot. Aka his instincts didnt look good to me. Of course he played lights out in the last 3 games, but I personally wont put instincts as his pros. He has size, quickness, and lateral speed to be a force of a player though.


jkylejohnson
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re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
We had a whole thread on this.


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Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Murray and it isn’t really close


keakar
Member since Jan 2017
14349 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
neither, both are very risky reaches at this point

trade down for more picks is the best way to go


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Suntiger
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re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Here’s the LINK to the seven page thread on this. Both are good prospects. I’d take either.

I’d probably take Queen just for better potential coverage skills. He seems a little more boom or bust than Murray.


Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
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re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
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Here’s the LINK to the seven page thread on this.


Not all heroes wear capes.


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goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
49672 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Neither is a reach.

Murray may be better early on but Queen seems to have a higher ceiling...and would love to have him as a Saint.


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Weekend Warrior79
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2014
5093 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
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One year starter and started only 12 of 15 games

Analysts and these scouting guys are the only ones putting a lot of stock in this. Everyone else knows the only reason he didn't start was because he played the same position as Devin White. He still had quality playing time while White was at LSU


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Lester Earl
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re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Queen is a former RB who can run with similarly skilled athletes. Could be the best coverage backer since Vilma


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NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
7325 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Funny I saw some people in the other thread down on Queen for the Ole Miss game when this is listed in Murray's negatives:

-Misdirected out of position multiple times by same play against Kansas State


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Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
877 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Neither, both are too risky and not worth taking in the first. Only backer that should go in the first is Simmons. Someone will be there at 24 that shouldn’t be.


Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
627 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
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Neither, both are too risky and not worth taking in the first. Only backer that should go in the first is Simmons. Someone will be there at 24 that shouldn’t be.


What pick at that range would you consider not risky?


Vacherie Saint
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Member since Aug 2015
21887 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
The answer is Murray because we need a 3 down Mike. We already have an elite Will linebacker.


Tigeralltheway
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Member since Jan 2014
2000 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
I take Queen. I believe Murray has somewhat peaked, whereas Queen will be much better year 2.

Watch Devin White will wreck shyte this year.


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ipodking
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re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Queen and it ain’t even close. He has the speed and athleticism to cover sideline to sideline.


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tconle2
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2011
3792 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
If Queen and Murray are gone, so you draft Baun at 24?

Queen and Murray I think would be an upgrade over Klein.
This post was edited on 4/5 at 8:22 pm


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tconle2
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2011
3792 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
You can say they are not first round talent but the problem is there isn't 32 players worth the first round. Only about half are sure first rounders.


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Kennerkarl
LSU Fan
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Member since Jan 2014
535 posts

re: If both Queen and Murray are sitting at 24, who do you take?
Just rewatched the national championship.
Queen was a beast.
Would be very happy with that pick. Don’t know much about Murray.

Usually don’t advocate for saints to draft LSU players but I’m very confident JJ ,
CEH, and queen will outplay their draft position. They all have the it factor. Really hope they land one of them.



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