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Cutting Fleener 2018
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:53 am
I believe a key missing component for the offense to excel to a higher level is a more viable threat at TE. I'm ready to write off Fleener as soon as cap affordable.
He had a rep for being soft before coming here and he has done nothing to dispel that. Am I correct that we could cut Fleener for a net $1.6million cap hit? Total dead cap money ($9.6mil) minus 2018 cap savings ($8mil)
Fleener contract details
Oddly, 3 TEs that have worked with Brees will be free agents next year-
Jimmy Graham, bridges burnt but never say never in the NFL
Ben Watson, still playing at 36
Antonio Gates,37 expected to retire
More UFA TEs here... Who ya got?
2018 FA TEs
Early look at 2018 TE Draft prospects-
https://walterfootball.com/draft2018TE.php
He had a rep for being soft before coming here and he has done nothing to dispel that. Am I correct that we could cut Fleener for a net $1.6million cap hit? Total dead cap money ($9.6mil) minus 2018 cap savings ($8mil)
Fleener contract details
Oddly, 3 TEs that have worked with Brees will be free agents next year-
Jimmy Graham, bridges burnt but never say never in the NFL
Ben Watson, still playing at 36
Antonio Gates,37 expected to retire
More UFA TEs here... Who ya got?
2018 FA TEs
Early look at 2018 TE Draft prospects-
https://walterfootball.com/draft2018TE.php
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:01 am to dtowntiger33
Eifert, if healthy, would DOMINATE in this offense.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:02 am to blueslover
I need to check contracts but isn't Jimmy AND Kam Chancellors contract up?
I think the Seahawks will have to make a choice on one or the other.
edit: Looks like Kam signed a three-year extension. So I believe the Seahawks can and will resign Jimmy.
I think the Seahawks will have to make a choice on one or the other.
edit: Looks like Kam signed a three-year extension. So I believe the Seahawks can and will resign Jimmy.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:11 am to blueslover
I really like the kid from Wisconsin. But in the end just get one that played some B-ball
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:13 am to blueslover
Nobody worth it in free agency.
Would rather draft a rookie.
Would rather draft a rookie.
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Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 260.
Projected 40 Time: 4.73.
Projected Round (2018): 2-4.
12/2/17: Goedert has been a dangerous receiving threat the past two seasons for South Dakota State. The senior has 60 receptions for 966 yards and five touchdowns in 2017. He put up even better production as a junior with 92 receptions for 1,293 yards and 11 touchdowns. Goedert has good size and athletic ability. He could help himself with a big week at the Senior Bowl.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:14 am to saints5021
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Eifert, if healthy, would DOMINATE in this offense
Eifert is never healthy.
But, that may be a way to get him for a reasonable contract.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:40 am to blueslover
Trey Burton from the Eagles. Set to be an unrestricted free agent in 2018.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:51 am to blueslover
Need a bridge-gap TE IMHO, a veteran that can make a difference.
Per OTC,
Fleener has a 8mil cap hit, cutting him saves us 3.2mil.
The guy I think we should target: Austin Seferian-Jenkins
Per OTC,
Fleener has a 8mil cap hit, cutting him saves us 3.2mil.
The guy I think we should target: Austin Seferian-Jenkins
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:41 am to blueslover
quote:
Am I correct that we could cut Fleener for a net $1.6million cap hit? Total dead cap money ($9.6mil) minus 2018 cap savings ($8mil)
What htran posted are the correct numbers, and more can be saved if labeled a June 1st cut (another $3.2 mil, but it would go on 2019's cap), saving a total of $6.4 mil come June 1st.
I see where you went astray though. You added each years' dead money hit. What each year actually shows is the dead money if they are cut that year. So if cut next year his dead money hit is $4.8 mil. If designated as a June 1st cut the dead money is $1.6 mil in 2018 and $3.2 mil in 2019.
Based on his current production rate and declining snap count I think he'll be asked to take a sizeable pay cut (around the amount they'd save) or they'll just cut him.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:14 pm to WB504
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Trey Burton from the Eagles. Set to be an unrestricted free agent in 2018.
I really like this suggestion.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:18 pm to blueslover
I really, really want Jimmy to come back. He was on track to be a hall of fame lock with the numbers he was putting up here.
Him, Thomas, Ingram, and Kamara would be insane. Add I'm potentially keeping Ginn and if Snead ever gets back to himself that's just icing.
Him, Thomas, Ingram, and Kamara would be insane. Add I'm potentially keeping Ginn and if Snead ever gets back to himself that's just icing.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:34 pm to blueslover
I think if he is still available in the mid rounds, Andrews from Oklahoma is a big body with great hands.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:06 pm to blueslover
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Cutting Fleener 2018
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:31 pm to dtowntiger33
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Jimmy!!!
no way in hell
that is about the worst idea ever, and fleener right now is doing a much better job then a washed up JG would do for us coming back here
they need to replace fleener with a very good TE and that rules out JG
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:38 pm to bonethug0108
thanks for the clarity bone
I like Burton a lot but he's quickly becoming one of the worst kept secrets in Philly. Gon get paid
Are most in agreement that TE presence/production is the weak link on the offense currently?
I like Burton a lot but he's quickly becoming one of the worst kept secrets in Philly. Gon get paid
Are most in agreement that TE presence/production is the weak link on the offense currently?
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:39 pm to blueslover
Mark Andrews out of Oklahoma would be great value with the #32 pick
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:40 pm to hsfolk
I thought they were trading up a few spots for Mayfield
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:23 pm to blueslover
Billy miller and Dave Thomas look like all pros compared to the shite we have now at TE.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:32 pm to Fat Bastard
noticed Cameron Brate will be RFA. Bucs are invested in Howard. Prolly wouldn't be a bank breaker. I think his numbers could explode under Payton. They were interested, snagged him in 2015 for the PS in 2015. The Bucs realized their screw up and took him back to the regular roster after 6 days in NOLA.
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