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GMoney2600
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CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
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Onyemata was cited for allegedly having marijuana delivered to his home shortly after the Saints’ playoff run ended, something which could cause the NFL to keep him off the field.

“We’re working under the impression that he’s with us,” Payton said at the team’s rookie minicamp of the 26 year old Nigeria native.

The National Football League forbids marijuana use by players in any capacity as part of its substance abuse policy, so it is likely that Onyemata may be in for some kind of punishment, the most likely being a probable four game suspension to begin the 2019 season, according to recent league precedent.

That said, it is also known that the NFL does not require punishment for players who are arrested just once and participate successfully in the league’s intervention program.

In total, Onyemata appeared on 616 snaps on defense for New Orleans last season, 59.81 percent of their total, in addition to 116 snaps on special teams, or 27.1 percent involvement.

He played on over half of every game save one for the Saints in 2018, serving as a reliable complement to Rankins on a run defense that ranked second overall in the NFL.

In his 48 game NFL career, Onyemata has started 10 contests, racking up 91 combined tackles, eight tackles for loss, 15 quarterback hits, and 6.5 sacks.

Onyemata is taking part in the Saints program so far, his coach said.

“He’s doing well,” Payton said. “He’s in the offseason program and we’ll go from there.”

The Saints are not aware if the league will suspend Onyemata for the citation.

“I don’t know that that’s going to happen,” Payton said of the league’s potential decision. “But we would always find out before they notify a player.”


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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
He completed his community service hours


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mindbreaker
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
we are getting in to weird territory with marijuana job restrictions. He's from Canada where it's legal country wide for use. If he has a prescription from Canada does he have a legal case. Marijuana suspensions are dumb regardless just curious the legality of it with it becoming more widespread in acceptance.


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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
Whether he has a script from Canada or not is irrelevant. Marijuana is still considered illegal by the feds (so dumb). This is why so many dispensaries are having banking problems. Banks are federally regulated and don’t wanna touch the money.


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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
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That said, it is also known that the NFL does not require punishment for players who are arrested just once and participate successfully in the league’s intervention program.


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The Saints are not aware if the league will suspend Onyemata for the citation.




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Shiftyplus1
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
Goodell could gain a ton of goodwill if he stopped testing for weed and didn't make it such a no-no.
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bonethug0180
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The National Football League forbids marijuana use by players in any capacity


And this is part of why I don't think he gets suspended (the other part is as far as we are aware this is his first offense iirc).

He didn't USE the marijuana in any way. This wasn't a failed test and he wasn't selling it. All he (or someone he knew) did was order it.


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ellishughtiger
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
A friend of mine owns a dispensary in Telluride. Two years ago he told me he had to make a weekly trip to Denver to deposit cash into a state ran bank. I’m not sure if he’s still doing this but driving 6hrs with $20k+ Made him feel uncomfortable.


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A friend of mine owns a dispensary in Telluride. Two years ago he told me he had to make a weekly trip to Denver to deposit cash into a state ran bank. I’m not sure if he’s still doing this but driving 6hrs with $20k+ Made him feel uncomfortable.

On Person of Interest, they stated that gangsters that have lost out on pot sales have begun hitting dispensary cars due to the large cash they carry.

I don't know if it that's true, but it makes sense.


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One of our clients in seatle is one of only a couple banks allowed to handle a dispensary. They are super heavily regulated to the point they have hired people who have to go weekly to inspect the growers.

I know when I was there the were pulling 100k plus deposits daily.


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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
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If he has a prescription from Canada does he have a legal case

no... federal law is still superior to state law...

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Marijuana suspensions are dumb regardless just curious the legality of it with it becoming more widespread in acceptance

that's all nice and all, but it's still federally outlawed... and even if it does become lawful federally, doesn't mean that the NFL, as the employer, will allow it's use... same as any employer, just because something is technically legal doesn't mean the employer is cool with the employees being under the influence of the substance...

try showing up at your job tomorrow drunk as frick and see how cool they are with alcohol being legal...


mindbreaker
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
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If he has a prescription from Canada does he have a legal case

no... federal law is still superior to state law..


I'm confused here. Do you think Canada is a state? It has its own fed. If onyemata is a Canadian citizen where its legal federally does he have a case if suspended. Hes from Nigeria so I don't know if he got his Canadian citizenship. Just curious the legality of it when factoring the laws of a different country


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nola000
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
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no... federal law is still superior to state law


That's not really how it works in the United States.

The laws aren't conflicting because there aren't laws to allow things (other than things that are licensed and regulated because they're otherwise against the law). There's only laws to disallow things. You're free to do anything you want in this country as long as it's not against any law of a jurisdiction that you're in. Just because it's illegal federally doesn't mean that a state or local cop is going to arrest you for it. It would be up to a federal law enforcement agent to make the arrest. It's their law to enforce and if you're in their jurisdiction, which is any state in the union, then they can make the arrest.

We have to get away from this idea in this country that the levels of government in the US exist in a hierarchy. That was never the original intent. The original intent was more like what you see with the European Union. Notice the name of this country isn't, the 'People's Republic of China' or 'Germany' or 'Japan' or the 'United Kingdom' . It's, the 'United States of' the continent of 'America'. The States having primacy and being 'United' for common defense.

There was a time when Americans were loyal to their States and only to the country as a whole when dealing with foreign entities. That the mental shift took place with the gradual and expected growth and power grab by the federal government is why States rights have been severely weakened.
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mindbreaker
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
I tend to think the shift happened more with technology. When the whole states rights idea was put in place people rarely left their home state and the ability to move nearly instantly didn't exist.

Regardless of that debate how does the NFL rules come into play when in conflict with the laws of a players home country if he is still a citizen of that country. Is the NFL considered a global company. That was the question I was trying to get at.


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Ed Osteen
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
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He's from Canada where it's legal country wide for use. If he has a prescription from Canada does he have a legal case


Why does this post have 22 upvotes?

He lives in Louisiana and marijuana is a banned substance in the NFL. Canada and its laws have literally nothing to do with this


mindbreaker
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
Doesn't matter where he lives and laws where he's from.

Try to keep up. Can a global company legally prevent a employee from doing something that is completely legal in his home country if he is a citizen of that country.


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Doesn't matter where he lives and laws where he's from.

Try to keep up. Can a global company legally prevent a employee from doing something that is completely legal in his home country if he is a citizen of that country.


Keep up with what? I don't even know what you are talking about. Are you asking if he has a legal case for getting weed shipped to him because it's legal in Canada?
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mindbreaker
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
Doesn't matter where he lives and laws where he's from.

Try to keep up. Can a global company legally prevent a employee from doing something that is completely legal in his home country if he is a citizen of that country.


bonethug0180
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re: CSP confident David Onyemata will be able to begin 2019
It's not a legal issue. It's a company policy issue.

As long as you are aware of a company's policies prior to being hired, you have to abide by them or risk termination or other punishments.

Only specific laws pertaining to work conditions, such as breaks and whatnot, determine what a company can and can't allow you to do.

Not allowing the smoking of weed or drinking of alcohol during or just prior to work hours is standard company policy for most companies, even where weed and alcohol use is allowed.


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Doesn't matter where he lives and laws where he's from.


No shit, that’s what I said
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Try to keep up. Can a global company legally prevent a employee from doing something that is completely legal in his home country if he is a citizen of that countr


Again, I have no idea why you are asking this like it proves some sort of point.


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