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Bobby Hebert says "the fix was in" on Saints loss to Falcons
Posted on 12/10/17 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 12/10/17 at 6:27 pm
quote:Bobby Hebert says "the fix was in" on Saints loss to Falcons
There are controversial calls, and then there was what happened yesterday.
The Saints-Falcons game was effectively ended when a referee called a penalty on Saints coach Sean Payton who was demonstrably calling for a timeout. It was something that happens in nearly every football game. A coach, whose team is trailing late in the game, animatedly calling for a timeout trying to get the officials attention through the noise and chaos. Yet last we saw Payton get penalized for doing what countless other coaches have done throughout the history of football. The call turned what would have been a third down for Atlanta into a fifteen yard penalty and an automatic first down.
Game over.
That was just the end to what most people saw as a less than effective night for Clete Blakeman's officiating crew.
The Saints (9-4) were penalized 11 times for 87 yards, nine of which resulted in Falcons' first downs. That is the most first downs gained via penalty by a team in one game in at least 20 years. The Falcons (8-5) were flagged just four times for 35 yards.
The game was promoted as a mid-week primetime clash between two bitter NFC South rivals, both fighting for playoff spots in a deep and talented conference. While the game was a fabulous display of playoff-type football, it was overshadowed by those penalties, and more Thursday night football injuries - an oft discussed issue when teams are forced to play on short weeks.
Do I think this was an intentional conspiracy by the officiating crew or the league? No, I don't. Poor officiating happens all the time in the NFL. Those guys are human. Just like Drew Brees made a huge mistake by throwing into double coverage on the Saint final drive, a pass that was intercepted when the Saints were well within range of a tying field goal, officials make mistakes. That doesn't mean it's intentional. However, that also doesn't make them immune to criticism. They should, and will, be heavily scrutinized for their performance last night.
Former Saints quarterback Bobby Hebert had a different take. Hebert was was incensed by the penalty dispartiy last night, thinking something more sinister indeed may have been going on behind the scenes.
"I don't know if I've ever seen a game like this," Hebert said. "And usually I don't say, 'you know 'the officials they're cheating' or calls aren't going our way. Man, it definitely looked like the fix was on and they wanted the Christmas Eve game (against Atlanta) to mean something. They wanted to keep Atlanta in contention. It was a game of penalties and it was overkill. I understand you've got to call some penalties. But just throwing the flag so you become too much of the game? It gets to be ridicluous. Almost you have a three to one penalties (advantage) over Atlanta. You're going to tell me we were playing that much on the edge where we have 11 penatlies, they only have 4? That's a bunch of bull!"
Hebert wasn't the only one upset. Saints coach Sean Payton was visibly infuriated during his post-game press conference. So were most of the Saints players in the locker room after the loss.
"Just a very frustrating loss, and I think the officials were just too much a part of it," Hebert said. "I look at that (penalty) discrepancy, and that's why Sean Payton was ticked off. I'm ticked off."
If you're still ticked off as well, then perhaps the best therapy would be listening to the Cajun Cannon's full post-game rant from the "Point After" show last night.
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Posted on 12/10/17 at 6:31 pm to Mrwhodat
hes a tard but i agree
that game was fixed.
that game was fixed.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 6:40 pm to Mrwhodat
He's right.
That game was over before it even started. Whether it was due to the NFL wanting to keep boring Thursday night games close, wanting to keep the playoff race tight, or a favor to Blank for his vote.
It was clear those officials were given very specific orders.
That game was over before it even started. Whether it was due to the NFL wanting to keep boring Thursday night games close, wanting to keep the playoff race tight, or a favor to Blank for his vote.
It was clear those officials were given very specific orders.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 6:45 pm to ZIGG
I don’t know about a fix but I have no doubt that the quality of officiating has NEVER been worse. Just watching that “leverage “ call in the Rams game is a perfect example. Its like they never hold bad refs accountable. Takes the fun out of the game when incompetent refs can influence outcomes.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 6:50 pm to ZIGG
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Blank for his vote.
No doubt in my mind that this was it. He’s got $40 million a year in his pocket thanks to Blank.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 7:02 pm to Mrwhodat
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Yet last we saw Payton get penalized for doing what countless other coaches have done throughout the history of football
Well that describes bounty gate perfectly
Posted on 12/10/17 at 7:19 pm to Mrwhodat
Bobby is right
The fix was 100% in
The fix was 100% in
Posted on 12/10/17 at 7:20 pm to Breesus
The game was fixed and we still should have won.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:46 pm to 1609tiger
At least in the Rams/Eagles game the announcers are calling BS on the BS calls unlike our game where the idiots ignored and defended the obvious disparity in the calls
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:58 pm to Mrwhodat
Minnesota's coach came on the field near the goal line to challenge a score that the Panthers had just made and they simply made him get back with no penalty.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:01 am to 1609tiger
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I don’t know about a fix but I have no doubt that the quality of officiating has NEVER been worse.
the replacement refs a few years ago were flat out terrible and a huge embarrassment to the NFL. That Fail Mary on Monday Night Football in the Packers/Seahawks game..
I also think the league is hurting cause practices aren't nearly the same as they use to be. I know these guys are pros but I think with the way most practices are run these days, players can't sharpen their fundamentals the same and its showing up on game day. This might explain SOME of the flags we're seeing now but fans also don't pay a hefty ticket price to go to games to watch refs throw flags almost at will like the other night.
time and again, a team's momentum is killed by some tick tack call like illegal contact on the opposite side of the field away from the play. It's the worst when fouls like that are called on 3rd down and give the offense an automatic 1st down.
if the competition committee doesn't lobby for some kind of touch up on fouls like that soon then I'm not sure why they have such a committee in the first place. If the NFL just sits back and act like things are still going fine and some changes aren't made this off-season, then they deserve everything that is coming to them.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 2:16 am
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:34 am to Mrwhodat
Game was fixed. Goodell told Brres to throw that interceiption to Debo
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:34 am to Mrwhodat
Wait until he finds out that the official that was a former Falcon player isn’t normally a part of the crew that officiated the game. He was placed with that crew for reasons unknown so far.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:37 am to eddieray
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Wait until he finds out that the official that was a former Falcon player isn’t normally a part of the crew that officiated the game. He was placed with that crew for reasons unknown so far.
The two other games he officiated this year for the Saints, we won both. Drop this stupid crybaby narrative.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:39 am to Mrwhodat
Something was going on. I usually roll my eyes at LSU fans when they say things like this but this was obvious.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:22 am to sicboy
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The two other games he officiated this year for the Saints, we won both. Drop this stupid crybaby narrative
Hey, I don’t believe any of this shite. I’m just fanning the flames of what Bobby said.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:19 pm to eddieray
He’s been raging about it tonight on aire
Posted on 12/11/17 at 6:37 pm to Cow Drogo
We barely brushed Ryan, he flops like a fish out of water and we get a roughing call. After that, it was clear what was happening.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:29 pm to sicboy
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The two other games he officiated this year for the Saints, we won both. Drop this stupid crybaby narrative.
Not necessarily buying into the conspiracy theory but you don’t think there is a bit of a difference between him officiating a Saints game against other teams versus officiating them when they play the team he was a member of?
The NFL needs to give the reason why he was added onto the crew at the last minute if that is true. It is questionable given the fact that they’ve blocked crew members with former team affiliations or fandom in the past.
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