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Zach Lowe discusses Jrue Holiday trades within the 1st 10 minutes of new podcast
Posted on 9/4/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 9/4/20 at 12:40 pm
On the newest episode of the Lowe Post, Zach starts talking about the Nash/Nets news, which sort of naturally leads to Caris Lavert, how good he was in the bubble, and whether he fits with Kd/ Kyrie.
This led to Jrue discussion. He listed what happens with Jrue as one of his top 3 stories to watch this offseason. I think he tends to think he will he moved.
They discussed Caris Lavert and a lightly protected 1st for Jrue, and if that would work for either team. They thought Lavert has a much higher ceiling but Jrue fits better for Nets. They thought really highly of Lavert, but mentioned his injury history and that he is a bit of an ISO Melo-esque scorer that needs the ball in his hands at times.
I just thought it was interesting that a big national podcast was talking about Jrue in the first few minutes.
Thoughts.
This led to Jrue discussion. He listed what happens with Jrue as one of his top 3 stories to watch this offseason. I think he tends to think he will he moved.
They discussed Caris Lavert and a lightly protected 1st for Jrue, and if that would work for either team. They thought Lavert has a much higher ceiling but Jrue fits better for Nets. They thought really highly of Lavert, but mentioned his injury history and that he is a bit of an ISO Melo-esque scorer that needs the ball in his hands at times.
I just thought it was interesting that a big national podcast was talking about Jrue in the first few minutes.
Thoughts.
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Posted on 9/4/20 at 12:46 pm to Fun Bunch
I’m not sure that’s the best fit with what we have. He seemed to be a volume scorer when Kyrie and other vets weren’t playing.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 1:19 pm to Fun Bunch
Lavert is likely overrated because he had a good bubble. Not sure I would do that deal. He has missed over 100 games in his short 4 year career.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 1:22 pm to NOSHAU
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Lavert is likely overrated because he had a good bubble
he's been good outside the bubble too. A lot of people think highly of him.
He just cannot stay healthy.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 1:31 pm to Fun Bunch
We already have a ball dominant player in Ingram, so I say no to Levert.
Thats not including his injury history, which is lengthy
Thats not including his injury history, which is lengthy
Posted on 9/4/20 at 1:34 pm to Soggymoss
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We already have a ball dominant player in Ingram, so I say no to Levert.
Yeah, I have a hard time seeing the fit with Ingram and Zion. He is definitely an ISO guy and I feel like you increasingly want the ball in those guys hands.
UNLESS you see him as a 6th man of the year type of guy that can give you serious firepower when Ingram is out. Lowe mentioned that.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 1:44 pm to Fun Bunch
I don’t hate Lavert but like others have said he’s injury prone and heavily ball dominant/iso type of player. Don’t think he’s a great fit with BI
Posted on 9/4/20 at 2:43 pm to Fun Bunch
Injury prone, low shooting percentages (have decreased every year as his usage has gone up), and about to be making $17mil a year?
That’s a no for me dawg
And the Nets first round picks are going to be useless for the foreseeable future if KD is anywhere near his former self.
That’s a no for me dawg
And the Nets first round picks are going to be useless for the foreseeable future if KD is anywhere near his former self.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 2:53 pm to 1ranter1
He's 23/5/5 per 36, a very solid player. Like was stated, in more of a 6th man type role, it could make sense.
Someone tell me if I'm way off here. Re: Lavert and Wiggins, I'm not seeing there isn't much of a difference between $17mil and $33mil, but considering we're already operating over the cap, how much does that extra salary on Wiggins really change what we can do?
I ask because if you want to take on Lavert(and a lightly protected 1st) assuming that extra salary does make a huge difference in how we operate, wouldn't it be better to take on Wiggins and get the better draft picks?
Someone tell me if I'm way off here. Re: Lavert and Wiggins, I'm not seeing there isn't much of a difference between $17mil and $33mil, but considering we're already operating over the cap, how much does that extra salary on Wiggins really change what we can do?
I ask because if you want to take on Lavert(and a lightly protected 1st) assuming that extra salary does make a huge difference in how we operate, wouldn't it be better to take on Wiggins and get the better draft picks?
Posted on 9/4/20 at 6:54 pm to Fun Bunch
Wasn’t he like 2nd in the bubble in total assists behind LeBron? Playin with a bunch of scrubs too.. if he can stay healthy he will develop into a really nice player. He’s more than just a scorer like a lot of people are saying. I feel like that’s an aspect of his game that you didn’t really get to see in his backup role in Brooklyn and it’s something that I think the pels really need. He’s done what they ask him to do, if it’s come of the bench and score he does it, if it’s facilitate he does that too. I’d be okay with getting him
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:50 pm to NOSHAU
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Lavert is likely overrated because he had a good bubble. Not sure I would do that deal. He has missed over 100 games in his short 4 year career.
And that's a lot better than his health at Meeshaginn. If their pick was higher, I would consider it, but 19 and Lavert isn't anything to write home about
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:52 pm to shel311
quote:
I'm not seeing there isn't much of a difference between $17mil and $33mil
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:58 pm to Geauxldninja
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Wasn’t he like 2nd in the bubble in total assists behind LeBron? Playin with a bunch of scrubs too
Do you remember when Greivis Vasquez was top 3 in the league in assists? I was his biggest defender, but he was a backup playing a starters role. Nobody thought he was the long-term answer.
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if he can stay healthy he will develop into a really nice player
1. That is a gigantic IF given the last 8 years indicating the opposite
2. He's already 26. Not sure how much more you can expect him to develop.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:07 pm to shel311
quote:
I'm not seeing there isn't much of a difference between $17mil and $33mil
Almost double And some would say Lavert is better.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:17 pm to Fun Bunch
No not much difference between someone getting 2X the money for similar value.. How can you write that and say isn't much of a difference?
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:09 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:If we're over the cap, all we have are exceptions either way, so my question still stands, was not answered.
Almost double
quote:So much so that you'd take the late 1st coming back over the #2 plus potentially next year's Minnesota pick? No chance he's that much better.
And some would say Lavert is better.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:11 pm to Dantheman504
quote:If we're over the cap either way, tell me specifically what changes.
How can you write that and say isn't much of a difference?
quote:Lavert and a late 1st is not similar value to Wiggins plus #2 and another 1st. Not even close.
No not much difference between someone getting 2X the money for similar value
My question has yet to be addressed, still stands.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:26 pm to shel311
As long as Ingram/Zion are good with blowing it up I would take Wiggins, Deni (#2), future Minnesota pick. Draft another PG with the #13 and use exceptions for stretch 4/5.
The only problem with the trade is you lose nice veteran leadership.
Ball/NAW
Ingram/Hart
Wiggins/Deni/Didi
Zion/Melli
Favors/Hayes/Okafor
The only problem with the trade is you lose nice veteran leadership.
Ball/NAW
Ingram/Hart
Wiggins/Deni/Didi
Zion/Melli
Favors/Hayes/Okafor
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:34 pm to Colonel Flagg
That team might win 25 games. Really don’t care for Wiggins
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:38 pm to Macintosh504
I am just saying if we are going to blow it up temporarily then I would take the picks. Like everyone else I see the West being completely stacked next year and we don’t even have a coach yet. I don’t see how the team gets better moving Jrue in the short term. He is a great asset to the team. If they really plan on moving Jrue it is a long term plan.
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 11:43 pm
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