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Would you give up picks and Moore for a half season rental of Paul George?

Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:41 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:41 am
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Source: Our dream scenario

OKC stays terrible. George is definitely going to LA. We send AA, Ajinca, and more pick(s) to get him and then try to sell him in summer to stay

What???!!!!!


I can't imagine any scenario in which OKC takes Asik but just Ajinca/Moore puts you into the tax. However

Rondo/Nelson
Holiday/Clark
Paul George/Hill/Miller
AD/Dante
DC

There's a huge amount of AD/DC derailing risk in this kind of trade, but if George stays and Benson pays the tax, that's a contender that gets the top shelf vet min FAs.

Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:45 am to
At this point I'd settle for a competent back-up big so AD and Boogie aren't playing a million minutes.

But that's intriguing for sure.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:48 am to
not your scenario, i know, but i'll ask:

why would OKC want extra salary for a corpse and a rotation player? what pick(s) are the Pels sending?


i dont really see why the Pels do that if the chance of George staying is minimal. so he comes on, maybe you win a couple of playoff games, even a series depending on matchup. if he leaves, Cousins and Davis both look at the roster/barren asset cupboard and say "that was as good as it will be here" then what?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:51 am to
I guess you have to at least consider it. He would be a on a roster that has two legit superstars in their prime in addition to him. He's literally a perfect piece for this team.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:55 am to
George would go from probably the worst possible scenario for him (Westbrook the ball dominant guard and Melo the offensive black hole) to quite possibly getting to be the Point Forward in this offense.

This will never happen. George would 100% leave in free agency, which might actually hurt our chances of Cousins staying. But what a pipe dream.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:55 am to
quote:

why would OKC want extra salary for a corpse and a rotation player?


I agree. I think he meant Asik instead of AA or Ajinca, but I don't see why OKC would take Asik. Maybe one of the 1sts and Asik goes to Phoenix for Dudley who goes to OKC?

quote:

maybe you win a couple of playoff games


I think that's really underselling the impact George could have.

Holiday
Hill
George
AD
DC

I'm not sure if Golden State has ever seen anything close to that defending them. But with Holiday going off the rails on offense and Hill being Hill, AD/DC might have to score 45 each to win.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:57 am to
I would jizz all over my keyboard... but it also seems like a pipe dream that has probably absolutely no chance of happening. I don't really know enough of how these things work to say definitively though.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 10:57 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 11:00 am to
And obviously, if you have any chance of pulling off the deal, you have to talk to PG's agent and gauge just how committed they are to him being a Laker next year. If they 100% straight shoot you that he's never, under any circumstances going to re-sign, and you believe its not a bluff, obviously you don't make any kind of deal unless it is dirt cheap.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 11:03 am to
on paper that's a potential headache for the Warriors.

not too sure it would come together so quickly that they become a title contender or beat the Warriors. but, for the sake of argument, let's say they give Golden State a tough 6 game series.

is that really enough to convince George, who has been rumored to want to go to LA for over a year, to stay? especially if LeBron is thinking LA too?

i'm not against just going for something like this, but there has to be some accounting for what happens if George does finally get to LA.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20897 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 11:03 am to
Oh man that is a dream but for it to be feasible

OKC stays bad via injury/chemistry
Pels are in a battle for top 4 seed
Moore shoots low 40s from 3
Alexis comes back and plays the best he's ever played.


But even then I'd rather stay put because if those guys played well it'd eliminate the need to make the trade in the first place.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 11:03 am to
There's also the Jrue makes too much money problem. If AD signs his extension and George gets a max then 2 years from now you're looking at AD making about $36 , Cousins and George making about $32 and Holiday making $26. That's $126 million so you're probably over the tax already with just those 4 players. You'd need to dump Hill and fill out the roster with a bunch of minimum and near minimum players. This definitely seems like a pipe dream scenario on so many levels.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 11:06 am
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6858 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 11:55 am to
Would be cool, although I wouldn't like PG attempting to recruit the likes of Boogie Cousins to Los Angeles
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:16 pm to
I do not understand trading away any draft picks. They are by far the greatest bargain in the league. Plus there is always the possibility of finding gem or a late bloomer. This team should have 6-8 guys on rookie deals. It only has 2 and neither are contibutors. We should be looking at ways to add cheap young talent, not pick up overvalued vets..
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
3656 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:33 pm to
-Said no championship contender
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1514 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:35 pm to
For the sake of this exercise, Paul George is not an overvalued vet. Paul George is exactly what we need; an elite defender, very good scorer, and good playmaker at the wing position who fits in with the ages of Boogie and Davis.

I don't see any way that this is possible, but you absolutely trade a 15-25 pick for Paul Gorge.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25415 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:36 pm to
Paul George and Kyle Singler for Jrue straight up.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38636 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:38 pm to
and then spend every other available future asset to trade jrue holiday next year.
and I mean every asset including Pierre, the dance team and the arena floor
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25415 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

-Said no championship contender



You serious Clark?
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:46 pm to
Yeah, the Warriors won their first championship with 3 stars all drafted by them. Same with the Spurs. What contender are you talking about?
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:58 pm to
If you get the chance, you MUST. Even if he is gone. So what - you dump some salaries and have changed your culture and the way you are viewed around the league in all likelihood.

They could get to the 2nd round, and even the WCF if things break right. Then, you dare him to leave to go play with an aging Lebron with 50,000 miles on his tires and that scrub Lonzo. Meanwhile, Pels get to tell AD and Boogie they will always be all in on winning
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