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Would you do this trade for Beal?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/18/21 at 9:49 am
Courtesy of our former Pelicans Insider/Curmudgeon, Crewz:
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Washington could easily be 14-29 by the trade deadline. Griff calls for Beal and offers:
Lonzo, Bledsoe, NAW, Melli, FIVE first round picks and FIVE pick swap options in '23-'27..... I want to know how the Wizards say no to that
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1st rounders would be: Our '21 first, Lakers '22 first, our '23 first, and the Bucks '25 and '27
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 9:50 am
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 9:50 am to Fun Bunch
I’ll pass
If Ingram and Zion were both 2-3 years further in their career, maybe I’d do it to try and confirm that short window, but I want this team to have draft picks. Hitting on draft picks and having control over those contracts for 4-6 years is so important
If Ingram and Zion were both 2-3 years further in their career, maybe I’d do it to try and confirm that short window, but I want this team to have draft picks. Hitting on draft picks and having control over those contracts for 4-6 years is so important
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 9:55 am
Posted on 3/18/21 at 9:57 am to Fun Bunch
not no but hell no. If we are putting up an offer like that we better be getting someone better than beal.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:08 am to Fun Bunch
I think Lonzo's play driving up his price is going to push Griff to make a move like that. I don't know that it happens at the deadline, I see an overpay for Beal or other high caliber player happening in the offseason.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 10:09 am
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:09 am to TigerinATL
How could it happen mechanically in the offseason?
Lonzo isn't going to agree to a S&T to Washington.
Lonzo isn't going to agree to a S&T to Washington.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:12 am to Fun Bunch
frick no. I like Beal, but a ball dominant guard isn’t what this team needs, especially at that price. We need an elite 3pt shooter who plays good to great perimeter D.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:14 am to Fun Bunch
That seems excessive for Beal.
I doubt the Wizards would say no to that, but the Pelicans should say no.
I'd rather look to make a small move to bring in a young player, moving Bledsoe and/or Redick out. Play your young guys and see what happens in the lottery before making any decisions on big moves likes this. I mean if we somehow end up with a top 3 pick, do you want to trade it, b/c i don't.
I doubt the Wizards would say no to that, but the Pelicans should say no.
I'd rather look to make a small move to bring in a young player, moving Bledsoe and/or Redick out. Play your young guys and see what happens in the lottery before making any decisions on big moves likes this. I mean if we somehow end up with a top 3 pick, do you want to trade it, b/c i don't.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 10:17 am
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
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Lonzo isn't going to agree to a S&T to Washington.
If it happens in the offseason I would see him agreeing to a S&T to the Knicks or whoever and his salary is part of the trade.
Hopefully Griff pulls the trigger now and is able to get value out of Lonzo, maybe that's why Klutch has been the one making noise, to fight a trade they don't want.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:19 am to TigerinATL
I think the chances of us trading Ball are really small. I know others feel otherwise, but I just feel like Griff is an eternal optimist, and he sees how well Ball is doing and is going to want to keep him.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:20 am to TeddyPadillac
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That seems excessive for Beal.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:25 am to Fun Bunch
Crewz probably just trolling those who keep calling for Pels to deal for Beal. No way in hell is he worth all of that. That is more than Harden went for. I think Beal is a fantastic player, but not on the premier superstar level that that trade would mean.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:34 am to LilWezyAna
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If Ingram and Zion were both 2-3 years further in their career, maybe I’d do it to try and confirm that short window, but I want this team to have draft picks. Hitting on draft picks and having control over those contracts for 4-6 years is so important
Yeah, that's the deal you make when you're convinced that BI and Zion are ready to win a title together. I think that BI and Zion need another year of learning to play better defense before that happens.
The only way that I see us making a deal for Beal by the deadline is if he tells the Wizards that he wants out, and then the Wizards decide to sell to the highest bidder. If that happens, it won't take near as much to get Beal as is proposed in that Crewz deal.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:34 am to NOSHAU
What this team needs is someone at the end of the game to run the game...Ingram ain't it and Zion can in small doses but not ready for that role full time.
I know CP3 types don't grow on trees but need a guard that's going to bark at his team and be someone that takes defense personally.
I don't know who that guy is but I know it's not Beal and I love Beal.
I know CP3 types don't grow on trees but need a guard that's going to bark at his team and be someone that takes defense personally.
I don't know who that guy is but I know it's not Beal and I love Beal.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:39 am to Fun Bunch
Nope, to much to pay.
Need a small move for a vet that can teach these guys how to stay calm in crunch time, and there's only one that is available.
I'll let the board speculate on who that is.
Need a small move for a vet that can teach these guys how to stay calm in crunch time, and there's only one that is available.
I'll let the board speculate on who that is.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:42 am to touchdownjeebus
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frick no. I like Beal, but a ball dominant guard isn’t what this team needs, especially at that price. We need an elite 3pt shooter who plays good to great perimeter D.
So, Lonzo Ball, basically, provided he shows about 15% improvement in his overall game.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 10:43 am
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:44 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
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provided he shows about 15% improvement in his overall game.
what does that mean?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:46 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
We make that trade and Beal looks great and signs an extension and then immediately blows his Achilles and we're stuck with an injured star and no way to get better.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:46 am to LilWezyAna
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Hitting on draft picks and having control over those contracts for 4-6 years is so important
It's our only protection against the disgruntled star and the most viable means of building a winner as a small market franchise.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:56 am to TeddyPadillac
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what does that mean?
He gets about 10% better on defense and adds a runner/floater to his game. He stays consistent with his shot.
Lonzo is approaching elite status as a shooter.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:04 am to touchdownjeebus
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frick no. I like Beal, but a ball dominant guard isn’t what this team needs, especially at that price. We need an elite 3pt shooter who plays good to great perimeter D.
Players of Beals caliber don’t grow on trees. If we want to do more than pretend at being good from time to time, you’ll want a guy of Beal’s caliber. And how can someone that good NOT be ball dominant? How is ball dominance is problem? You’ve got the Nets with three such players and they’re considered contenders.
That hypothetical elite 3 and D just sounds like a better version of Lonzo to me. Would you rather just keep Lonzo until he becomes better on defense? Ball swings and teams collapse and demand that either Zion or Ingram win in the clutch? Why not have a guy who can create offense or hit a big shot from anywhere?
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