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re: WDSU is questioning booing Gentry? Really?

Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:40 am to
I didn't say people shouldn't boo. I said it's their right, but I just find it dumb and pointless.

I highly doubt I would ever see an intelligent person doing it. It's usually some white trash loser, which to be fair is about 90 percent of crowds in sports.

You never turn around and see the loud guy who is screaming at the refs or booing or starting some loud chant and go "Wow, that guy has it all together. Well dressed, seemingly intelligent, good place in life."

It's always the same white trash losers because nobody who has actually accomplished something in life actually think it's worth their time to boo a man they don't know or whose job they don't truly understand
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9908 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:45 am to
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I mean... what kind of miserable person pays money to watch the Pelicans, considering how much of a clown car this organization has been?



People who enjoy watching professional basketball, attending games, and having an NBA team in town.

Paying money to attend a game to boo is moronic. It is tacky as hell and accomplishes nothing. Empty seats and unsold tickets speak much louder than trashy drunks booing the coach when we are winning.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:49 am to
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Paying money to attend a game to boo is moronic. It is tacky as hell and accomplishes nothing. Empty seats and unsold tickets speak much louder than trashy drunks booing the coach when we are winning.


I wouldn't say booing accomplishes nothing. Monty got ran out of town after making the playoffs and losing to GSW in 4. He was heavily boo'd the first 30-40 games and still noticeably boo'd through the run. Did it cause his firing? Absolutely not. Is it feasible to think that it had a tiny % in the calculation? I'd think so.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61407 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:50 am to
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It is kind of silly to boo the coach when the team is winning by 20 points in the midst of a 3 game win streak, but to each their own.


I don't know where this story started, booing up 20 seems odd. Here's an alternative eyewitness account telling a different story.

quote:

Kevin Barrios? @kevinbforbounce

Boogate is the worst because the fan wasn’t even booing. He was yelling for Alvin Gentry to yank the starters up 22 w/ 4 min left after seeing AD have to leave for a bit, seeing Mirotic get whacked in the face and Julius Randle diving at people’s knees. I was sitting very close..

...heard every word. “Hey, Gentry!!! Pull the starters!!! We are up 20!!! We don’t need injuries!!! I know you can hear me!!!” All of this is fair enough. He never cursed or booed.


Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9908 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:58 am to
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I don't know where this story started, booing up 20 seems odd. Here's an alternative eyewitness account telling a different story.


I do not watch local news, so I did not see the WDSU story, but I assume it was triggered by Coach McMillan's tweet:

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Jamelle McMillan ? @JamelleMac Feb 14
Let's boo the coach at home while his team is up by 22 and won the previous 2 games.......makes so much sense


Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:59 am to
Fan booing had nothing to do with Monty firing. The decision was made 100 percent on pace of play and Dell convincing the higher ups that is where the game was going
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:02 am to
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Fan booing had nothing to do with Monty firing. The decision was made 100 percent on pace of play and Dell convincing the higher ups that is where the game was going


See, that's the part that isn't so black and white as you make it sound.

Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9908 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:06 am to
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See, that's the part that isn't so black and white as you make it sound.



The organization takes fans into consideration to an extent, but they do so through specially crafted surveys directed to season ticket holders.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:17 am to
It is. But you can believe whatever you want

I know it feels good as a fan to think you have some power, but organizations think of you all the way they should - stupid, easily manipulated simpletons who will find a reason to be optimistic in the off-season and talk themselves into seats and merchandise

Posted by Tigersfan
Member since Feb 2006
2634 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:42 am to
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It's brainless entertainment. Just sit there and be entertained and then go home.


Ok, that makes sense. All fans should just be entertained, not give a shite, and simply go home?

Gotcha. But doesn't winning more often than not bring more brainless entertainment, as in playoffs? So I guess booing fans are justified by that logic because it cost them less brainless entertainment.

And isn't winning more entertaining than losing?

And FWIW, I agree with you that booing is dumb and pointless. But so is this particular argument against it.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 11:44 am
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:47 am to
The chant would be “ettore! Ettore! Ettore!” With hands up in the typical eye-Talian manner lots of fist shaking too
Posted by Tigersfan
Member since Feb 2006
2634 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:50 am to
I was sitting club level center court and didn't hear any booing either. I was wondering what McMillian was talking about as he didn't elaborate in that original tweet.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 11:51 am
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:57 am to
You are the king of the Strawman argument.

Yes, you should prefer winning to losing, but booing won't effect EITHER.

You have no power. No voice. Literally nobody with power cares what you think. So, don't waste your time doing it. But if you choose to because you are a miserable person and being negative makes you happier than being positive...by all means, do it!

But only worthless people who have accomplished nothing in life and have added no value enjoy that
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 11:58 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61407 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:06 pm to
The main thing they care about is if you bought a ticket and a $10 beer. To the decision makers a fan booing probably means they bought more than 1 beer and is a good customer.

Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:09 pm to
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The main thing they care about is if you bought a ticket and a $10 beer. To the decision makers a fan booing probably means they bought more than 1 beer and is a good customer


Ahhh bro don’t get into a cuddle fest with the darkest timeline version of Crewz.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61407 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:13 pm to
I'm just pretty cynical about how this organization views its red headed step child. Would they care if boos rained down in the Dome regularly? They might. In the SKC? Loomis doesn't have much to with the Pels, or so I've heard.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9908 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:06 pm to
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I'm just pretty cynical about how this organization views its red headed step child. Would they care if boos rained down in the Dome regularly? They might. In the SKC? Loomis doesn't have much to with the Pels, or so I've heard.


They would not take boos into account for either team with respect to decision making purposes. They do market research via surveys of certain season ticket holders and they do focus groups for target audiences if they want fan input (as does most every professional sports organization).

They have in the past considered some of that research with respect to how moves might affect the bottom line and/or how to market more impactful transactions. I know they did this with the Monty firing, but I never got clarity on whether it factored into their decision to fire in some way or if it was just used to craft the team's PR approach after the decision to fire was made.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:47 pm to
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They would not take boos into account for either team with respect to decision making purposes. They do market research via surveys of certain season ticket holders and they do focus groups for target audiences if they want fan input (as does most every professional sports


Those same people booing at games are filling out those surveys. Those same people filling out those surveys are listening to the other STHs around them bitch about the coach constantly.

This fallacy that the boo birds are a bunch of drunken idiots is dumb. In reality, it’s probably a smarter section of the fan base that actually has a bare minimum understanding of basketball that are tired of seeing the same shite over and over.

Or beers and random morons booing the head coach who show up 3x a year to boo the coach.
Posted by Domingo Ayala
NOLA
Member since Oct 2013
338 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:48 pm to
I would consider myself not to be white trash; however, I must admit I have booed once in my day, albeit I was pretty lit up. And it wasn't aimed at a particular coach either.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11841 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:01 pm to
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It's brainless entertainment. Just sit there and be entertained and then go home.
Honestly, who are you to tell the paying fans how they should view a game? You don't pay a dime for season tickets or nightly parking and concessions. I certainly do not condone the booing, but it is ridiculous for someone to tell those how they should view and feel about attending their team's games.
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