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Was trading #4 also about screwing the Lakers?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:35 pm
I can’t help but wonder with all the reports about the Lakers “forgetting about cap space” and “calling the Pelicans back to rework the trade”, if part of trading the #4 pick and why it was important was to give the Lakers a “look we’ve already moved past that, sorry. Now kindly leave us alone and deal with your own problems” moment.
We have a vested interest in the Lakers sucking for years to come and maneveuring in a way that makes it look like we aren’t intentionally trying to screw them over for their mistakes may just be another genius PR move and move in general for Griffin.
Now it’s become an even bigger interwoven mess for the Lakers to try to untangle by pushing the trade back with other teams involved.
We have a vested interest in the Lakers sucking for years to come and maneveuring in a way that makes it look like we aren’t intentionally trying to screw them over for their mistakes may just be another genius PR move and move in general for Griffin.
Now it’s become an even bigger interwoven mess for the Lakers to try to untangle by pushing the trade back with other teams involved.
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:36 pm to ShamelessPel
Nah, #4 was always going to be included in the trade regardless. Now getting the pick swaps, that was about screwing the lakers
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:37 pm to ShamelessPel
No
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:38 pm to ShamelessPel
Jesus...no man. It wasn’t.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:40 pm to MasterAbe1
This trade is still not finalized. I don’t know what type of options were available to the Lakers. Would they be able to back out and push it back if they wanted? What could the Pelicans possibly do about it if they did? Who’s going to come in and offer a better deal for AD than we got?
I don’t know the answers to those questions and if the Lakers really woke up and forced our hand, what would we be able to do? Sure, they’d get pushback and look stupid for doing so, but what are the actual consequences for them long-term? The media is only going to criticize them for so long. The other teams in the league will get over it if they think they’re getting the better end of deals with them.
I don’t know the answers to those questions and if the Lakers really woke up and forced our hand, what would we be able to do? Sure, they’d get pushback and look stupid for doing so, but what are the actual consequences for them long-term? The media is only going to criticize them for so long. The other teams in the league will get over it if they think they’re getting the better end of deals with them.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:42 pm to ShamelessPel
If they backed out now, they would essentially have to sell the team..
None of the guys will want to play there, nobody will deal with them in trades..
Hell even alot of agents are not happy with them..
None of the guys will want to play there, nobody will deal with them in trades..
Hell even alot of agents are not happy with them..
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:43 pm to ShamelessPel
I think it definitely played a role in Griffin's determination to trade the pick. It was slamming the door shut on pushing the completion date back to July 30.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:44 pm to Soggymoss
screwing over the Lakers would be a favored past time of mine if I had the ability to do so
but I think most people were sure the #4 pick was gone to a 3rd team as soon as it was acquired by the Pelicans
but I think most people were sure the #4 pick was gone to a 3rd team as soon as it was acquired by the Pelicans
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:45 pm to Soggymoss
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If they backed out now, they would essentially have to sell the team..
None of the guys will want to play there, nobody will deal with them in trades..
Hell even alot of agents are not happy with them..
Well, yes, it’s a much bigger problem NOW. That’s the point.
Before the draft, I don’t get why you think any of your statements would happen. People have short memories and controversies are swept under the rug and become non issues.
Remember how the entire country was in a tizzy about that DPI in the NFCCG or the Devin white suspension vs Bama? Does anybody talk about either of those things now? We’ve seen firsthand we can get screwed, it will look like a big deal, and eventually be a big pile of nothing. Why is this any different?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:49 pm to ShamelessPel
It wasn't intentionally done to screw the Lakers, that was just lagniappe. The trade with the Hawks was better than anything further that the Lakers could have done and, as mentioned, I believe that they were always planning to leverage #4 for additional picks.
That said, yes, it makes it pretty much impossible for the Lakers to move the deal back to free up cap space. Either way, they are in a catch 22. Sticking with July 6th gives them less cap space, pushing it back would give them more cap space to work with, but they would be late to the party on signing available players.
The Lakers have just looked stupid this past week. First, they tried to "rework" the trade with the Pels, which just illustrates that they are realizing that they were so bent on getting AD that they overextended themselves to do it. THEN, they were frantically scrambling to acquire second round picks and failed at that as well, which makes you wonder if the rest of the league, not just the Pels, are happy to sit back and watch the Lakers implode.
That said, yes, it makes it pretty much impossible for the Lakers to move the deal back to free up cap space. Either way, they are in a catch 22. Sticking with July 6th gives them less cap space, pushing it back would give them more cap space to work with, but they would be late to the party on signing available players.
The Lakers have just looked stupid this past week. First, they tried to "rework" the trade with the Pels, which just illustrates that they are realizing that they were so bent on getting AD that they overextended themselves to do it. THEN, they were frantically scrambling to acquire second round picks and failed at that as well, which makes you wonder if the rest of the league, not just the Pels, are happy to sit back and watch the Lakers implode.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:54 pm to ffishstik
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pushing it back would give them more cap space to work with, but they would be late to the party on signing available players.
I believe I heard that pushing it back would also hurt the Pelicans cap space
so... why would the Pels do that?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:59 pm to rt3
they won’t
ATL won’t agree to that
what will likely happen is that LAL will send their remaining scrubs to ATL.
ATL will send a fake pick to LAL
that will be a legal 3 team trade and LAL gets more space if they need it
ATL won’t agree to that
what will likely happen is that LAL will send their remaining scrubs to ATL.
ATL will send a fake pick to LAL
that will be a legal 3 team trade and LAL gets more space if they need it
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:03 pm to rt3
They wouldn't. I'm not saying it is an option, just saying that the Lakers have put themselves in a no win situation. The Pelicans will absolutely NOT agree to push it to 6/30.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:08 pm to ffishstik
At this point the Hawks would have to agree to do that as well, hence why it’s now a nonstarter, which was part of OP’s point.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:09 pm
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