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Traditional big man is officially dead. Gobert proves Adams unplayable
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:30 am
If the best defensive center in the NBA is a liability, I’d have to think Adams is pretty much useless.
The league has evolved to the point that a traditional center is unplayable.
I don’t believe this is a situation where you can veer against the grain either because the 3 is such a statistical advantage.
The Clippers just put the final nail in the big C coffin.
The Adams trade is looking worse by the day.
The league has evolved to the point that a traditional center is unplayable.
I don’t believe this is a situation where you can veer against the grain either because the 3 is such a statistical advantage.
The Clippers just put the final nail in the big C coffin.
The Adams trade is looking worse by the day.
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:35 am to ghost2most
You do realize that you aren’t ever beating the 76ers without a big aggressive defensive 5.
If someone tries to small ball Embiid in the playoffs, he’d score 50+ Same with Jokic.
If someone tries to small ball Embiid in the playoffs, he’d score 50+ Same with Jokic.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:35 am to ghost2most
I agree, but jaxson seemed to learn a lot of defensive things from adams. If jaxson develops a 3 point shot and can be great defensively then adams may have not been as useless as we think (maybe unplayable) but not useless
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:36 am to ghost2most
Omer Asik 2.0
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:36 am to ghost2most
You're focusing on Adams and Gobert but I think it also says something about Jaxson. If he lives up to his potential he'll make the trade back look like a homerun.
If you can use Adams in a good trade, great. If not I'd see about shifting him to more of a bench role as Jaxson develops.
If you can use Adams in a good trade, great. If not I'd see about shifting him to more of a bench role as Jaxson develops.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 11:37 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:44 am to ghost2most
I don't agree with that, Gobert played lousy defense last nite in mostly camping out underneath the goal for rebounds, giving his man easy practice shots from outside. If you wanna say today's big man shoots a lot from the outside, 3's and all then I'll agree with that. But big man are still counted on heavy for rebounding, defense with blocking shots and all. I find a lot of the bigs like to shoot from outside in today's game like Jokic, Embiid, Porzingis and so on. But they can still be effective inside when they turn to that game like Marganovich did to the Clippers who had no answer in stopping him.
also, Adams was really effective when he was in Okie with how they used him and all. He wasn't with the Pelicans with how Van Gundy used the man. Lol
also, Adams was really effective when he was in Okie with how they used him and all. He wasn't with the Pelicans with how Van Gundy used the man. Lol
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:48 am to TeddyPadillac
Who gives a shite about beating the 76ers? What the two games a year we play them in the regular season because they’ve proven that Embid’s brittle arse isn’t making the finals.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:48 am to ghost2most
Adams play this year is what proved him to be unplayable imo. We didn’t need the Utah series to tell us that.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:51 am to ghost2most
Need a point guard that can push the ball fast and hit a 3 and a SG that can nail 3s lights out.
Pels are not going to have any great improvement with this offseason unless we get really lucky in the lottery and hire a great coach
Pels are not going to have any great improvement with this offseason unless we get really lucky in the lottery and hire a great coach
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:51 am to ghost2most
Dead, no, Embiid proves that.
The traditional offensively limited defensive big? Also no, but definitely relegated mostly to situational.
Which should have been obvious to Griff last offseason. Since the report on Adam’s had been written two playoffs in a row. First against the pick and roll guard heavy Blazers than the small ball Rockets.
Though in Gobert’s defense, if the Jazz had better perimeter size and athleticism this series is a lot different. As is Kawhi and PG could just shoot over Royce O’Neal or drive past Jingles or Bogdanovic. Mitchell hobbled made him a parking cone and Conley has seen better days athletically.
The traditional offensively limited defensive big? Also no, but definitely relegated mostly to situational.
Which should have been obvious to Griff last offseason. Since the report on Adam’s had been written two playoffs in a row. First against the pick and roll guard heavy Blazers than the small ball Rockets.
Though in Gobert’s defense, if the Jazz had better perimeter size and athleticism this series is a lot different. As is Kawhi and PG could just shoot over Royce O’Neal or drive past Jingles or Bogdanovic. Mitchell hobbled made him a parking cone and Conley has seen better days athletically.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:56 am to ghost2most
Considering that elite traditional bigs haven't won a championship since Tim Duncan kinda says it all. Is it possible? Sure. But it's unlikely. I don't count Davis as he's a modern big man.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:00 pm to supe12sta12z
You are damn right not to count AD’s Bubble League Champ Series Win while being carried by Lebron and Playoff Rondo and your undersized Matchup Adebayo is playing with an injured neck.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:34 pm to 3PieceSpicy
quote:Imagine thinking Rondo carried AD in the Bubble Playoffs.
while being carried by Lebron and Playoff Rondo
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:50 pm to ghost2most
I’d love for big men to rule the paint again. You run into the lane and chunk up a prayer and get destroyed…good for you…you don’t deserve two shots for that.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:55 pm to shel311
Rondo won them a few games tbh. Without Rondo, the Lakers don’t win last year. He was tremendous in key spots. He even carried Lebron in a few 4th quarters.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:04 pm to Bronc
I gotta agree with Bronc here. If you have Embiid or Jokic, they can take advantage of a smaller defender and force you to play a big. But the days of the Steven Adams type centers who don't provide anything on offense are over. Nic Batum is guarding Gobert, and he doesn't have the skillset to take advantage of it.
It really makes you wonder why some of these centers don't work on there post moves more often, seems like an easy way to counter being guarded by a small forward.
It really makes you wonder why some of these centers don't work on there post moves more often, seems like an easy way to counter being guarded by a small forward.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:08 pm to MeanWeen225
Steven adams under current contract and starting is bad.
Steven Adams for 7 mil and coming off the bench (starting against only embiid,Jokic would be great)
Give him the zubac role of the clippers, only play him when you need his muscle
Steven Adams for 7 mil and coming off the bench (starting against only embiid,Jokic would be great)
Give him the zubac role of the clippers, only play him when you need his muscle
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:08 pm to MeanWeen225
You have to have a center against embiid but that's one team.
You don't pay a 1st and 17mil for 2 years.
You sign someone for 5 or 6 mil.
You don't pay a 1st and 17mil for 2 years.
You sign someone for 5 or 6 mil.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:21 pm to Chalkywhite84
Utah had the best record in the entire league and was playing for a chance at the western conference finals. Oh to have their “problems”.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:26 pm to Chalkywhite84
The Jrue trade was so dumb and will bother me until we make a big trade to fix it. You trade a good player going into the last year of his contract, but you don't get any young players, and somehow put yourself in a much worse salary cap position? It makes no sense and really makes me question if Griff actually knows what he's doing.
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