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Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:30 am to msutiger
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:30 am to msutiger
The problem is injuries meant the Hornets were playing a bunch of scrubs that the officials refuse to make calls for. Gray was being mugged all night and one of the few calls he got was only made because the officials refused to call a similar penalty the previous play and the crowd let them hear about it. That really was a terribly officiated game. I know Monty's contract is so cheap that he has to wear ugly suits, but he really should take the fine and go off to try and shame future officiating crews into doing their damn jobs.
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Posted on 2/6/11 at 11:35 am to TigerinATL
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Posted on 2/6/11 at 11:40 am to TigerinATL
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I know Monty's contract is so cheap that he has to wear ugly suits
HAHA, I actually like his suits.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 11:43 am to TeddyPadillac
Damn, D West keeping it real... a little to real lol
Posted on 2/6/11 at 11:44 am to NOLATiger86
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HAHA, I actually like his suits.
me too, he's dapper dan on the sidelines
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:00 pm to JayJay2
I think plaid is the ugliest pattern ever created so for me his suit last night was terrible.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:05 pm to TigerinATL
I actually didn't pay atten. to his suit last night, so it may have been ugly
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:19 pm to Deactived
quote:How much penetration was there? The Hornets shot 21 3's. Our big man is out, and we're playing small and outside. When your big man is out, it's hard to play the kind of ball that predicates them fouling you a lot.
hornets-22 fouls
lakers-11 fouls
not as drastic, but still
I'm sure there was a call here and a call there, but usually the "look at how many free throws they shot" argument doesn't mean much.
And when you score 13 in the 4th quarter at home, don't blame the refs for the loss.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:37 pm to xiv
quote:Dont be "box score guy"
I'm sure there was a call here and a call there, but usually the "look at how many free throws they shot" argument doesn't mean much.
It what clear to anyone who saw that game that the refs were horible. Monty doesnt complain about anything and he's probably gonna get fined
The good thing about the refs though, is that they were terrible throughout the whole game. So the Hornets werent taken off guard when they made horrible calls in big moments
You know its bad when the refs are giving Artest the benefit of the doubt. He goes Hulk Hogan on one possession, throwing Pondexter over his shoulder. No call. The next possession he gives him the people's elbow to the face. Foul on Pondexter.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:47 pm to xiv
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How much penetration was there? The Hornets shot 21 3's. Our big man is out, and we're playing small and outside. When your big man is out, it's hard to play the kind of ball that predicates them fouling you a lot.
GTFO with that slapdick
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:50 pm to xiv
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The Hornets shot 21 3's
The Lakers shot 18
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:52 pm to eyeran
quote:Then how many times did the Hornets do something to draw a foul that wasn't called?
Dont be "box score guy"
If you're shooting outside all night, you're not going to get fouled.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:55 pm to msutiger
quote:They penetrated a lot more, too. That's mostly because our big man was out. This kind of stuff happens all the time.
The Lakers shot 18
Posted on 2/6/11 at 12:57 pm to xiv
He just outlined 2 for you, Gray got fouled quite frequently without calls and even had a super clean block called against him as a foul. The box score really doesn't tell the story of the officiating, basically the Hornets were getting ticky tack fouls and phantom fouls while the Lakers got away with murder. It really was pretty blatant preferential treatment. Who knows, it may not have been pro Lakers as much as anti scrub with all the injuries the Hornets have, but the disparity was plain as day.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 1:02 pm to xiv
4 free throws to 27 happens all the time? Dude we almost set an NBA record
Posted on 2/6/11 at 1:06 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Is that to say that the answer is "2?" If so, I'm not hanging this one on the officials. I'm not saying you're wrong; I'm just saying I watched, too, and I didn't come away thinking that the refs had screwed us. Rather, we ran out of gas because two of our most important players were out. We didn't have much muscle down low, and it's almost impossible to beat LAL when that's the case. Lack of strength + two starters out = 13 in the 4th quarter. Before the final 3 the Hornets made, the Lakers kept us scoreless for 3:28. During that time, both Kobe and CP3 were called for offensive fouls, and Fisher was called for a foul (and two intentional garbage-time fouls on the Hornets at the end).
He just outlined 2 for you
The game was tied with 3:43, and the Lakers came through; the Hornets didn't.
And before the Hornets' garbage-time fouls, the Hornets had been whistled 3 times to the Lakers' 2. The Hornets took a lead at home into the fourth quarter and got a pretty evenly-called quarter; they just couldn't hold on because they weren't good enough without two starters.
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Posted on 2/6/11 at 1:13 pm to xiv
I can think of one example for you. Kobe bring the ball up the floor put his shoulder into thornton, Thornton called for the block. A few possessions later Paul does the EXACT SAME THING on Fisher, CHARGE. The NBA couldnt let the Lakers lose another one and it was painfully obvious. Gray was mugged multiple times. West was called with chicken shite fouls. It was the worst officiating Ive seen in quite some time
Posted on 2/6/11 at 1:14 pm to xiv
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Before the final 3 the Hornets made, the Lakers kept us scoreless for 3:28. During that time, both Kobe and CP3 were called for offensive fouls, and Fisher was called for a foul (and two intentional garbage-time fouls on the Hornets at the end).
CP3 was getting calls. Like I said, I really think it might be more that no names don't get calls in the NBA, especially against NBA royalty. Gray should have had at least 4 FT attempts if not more, not gotten a call against him that lead to 2 Laker FTs and those things matter because all the calls the scrubs weren't getting could add up and put you in the penalty.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 1:16 pm to xiv
So basically, you're saying, that since the game was so close in the end and we just "couldn't pull it out" that, the refs didn't cost us the game, that we did?? So no foul discrepancy during the game, just, us not having our key guys??
Posted on 2/6/11 at 1:25 pm to JayJay2
quote:I'm saying what I put in my posts. I don't need your help paraphrasing.
So basically, you're saying, that
"Look at the free throw difference" is ALWAYS an argument that has a little too much bullshite in it. They penetrated more. Of course they're going to be fouled more. It's the reason the Heat shot more free throws than Dallas in the 2006 NBA Finals. Wade penetrated while Dirk shot fadeaways.
An injured starting center and a point guard on a gimp knee vs. a team who has a lot of strength down low will ALWAYS shoot fewer free throws than the opponent, and the Lakers are smart enough to exploit that. Were there some bad calls in there? Of course. shite happens.
But when you have the lead in the 4th quarter at home, and the refs call three fouls on you and two on them, and you go 3:30 without scoring, and you go 1-8 from behind the arc, and all but one of your shots in the fourth quarter are jump shots (the other was a put-back), and you lose, you have a lot of things to address before you bitch at the refs.
If you have no shot attempts in the paint, you're not going to the free throw line.
This post was edited on 2/6/11 at 1:28 pm
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