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The Ringers new Pels article
Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:16 pm
Life without Davis on the floor is shockingly rough
Good read, coupled with The Jump’s opening monologue on how hard rebuilding is, maybe spending like never before is best option of seeing long term success in NOLA.
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Opponents are totally unperturbed by the presence of Julius Randle, Jahlil Okafor, or Cheick Diallo in the paint, taking 39.5 of their total field goal attempts at the rim with Davis on the bench; that would be the second-highest rate in the league over the course of the full season. All that attacking punctures the perimeter defense, causing help defenders to collapse, opening up kick-out opportunities and high-value looks elsewhere; opponents have drilled 46.7 percent of their corner 3-
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In 435 minutes this season with Davis off the court and Holiday on it, New Orleans has played faster but less effectively, averaging 108.8 points per 100 possessions, nearly five fewer points-per-100 than its full-season mark.
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weeks’ worth of games, it’s far from a certainty that New Orleans will be playing past mid-April; FiveThirtyEight’s model gives the team a 37 percent chance of making the postseason, while Basketball-Reference pegs its odds at less than 20 percent.
Good read, coupled with The Jump’s opening monologue on how hard rebuilding is, maybe spending like never before is best option of seeing long term success in NOLA.
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:38 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
You’ve been harping on the lack of spending, how do you propose they correct that? It’s not like they’re sitting on a bunch of exceptions.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:06 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Everyone should also check out Thursdays Ringer NBA Show pod. Verrier interviews Kushner for about 25 minutes. Good dialogue
Spending on player salaries isn't the problem. They spend plenty, though not wisely, there.
Spending more on the uncapped side of the franchise (FO, coaching, etc) would help. But that eats into profit margins, so I'm not holding my breath
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maybe spending like never before is best option of seeing long term success in NOLA.
Spending on player salaries isn't the problem. They spend plenty, though not wisely, there.
Spending more on the uncapped side of the franchise (FO, coaching, etc) would help. But that eats into profit margins, so I'm not holding my breath
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:10 pm to corndeaux
I think we will see an almost complete house cleaning.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:24 pm to corndeaux
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Spending on player salaries isn't the problem. They spend plenty, though not wisely, there. Spending more on the uncapped side of the franchise (FO, coaching, etc) would help. But that eats into profit margins, so I'm not holding my breath
They’ve spent plenty...to be a title contender? I disagree.
Only the Bucks are a contending team/have a top 10 player with a cap sheet close to ours.
Spending wisely? I agree, but the summer of bad contracts was a league wide trend.
Profit margin is right. This team is and rightfully so run for profit...but would spending more lead to more revenue(ticket sales)? Probably not, but AD is about as great player that can ever fall in your lap. So if a title is not a true goal for the franchise, what is?
By all accounts AD is having a historical season. From KOCs Ringer Article:
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The Pelicans big man is on pace to be the first player ever to average more than 29 points, 13 rebounds, four assists, two blocks, and one steal in a full season; the only players to ever even come close are Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Bob McAdoo.
If you don’t go into tax & yes I realize the Boogie situation changed everything, than Plan B is to blow it up?
I’m going to continue to question the commitment to winning, until proven otherwise.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:36 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Plan B was to trade for another Maxish player. They reportedly were aggressive going after Butler and Beal. You say you realize Cousins changed things except you seem to refuse to acknowledge that him going down and having no trade value meant there was no other step to replace the salary he was going to get in the short term. They were going to resign him with Bird Rights, it’s not like they had cap space to get into a bidding war over a high caliber player.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:42 pm to TigerinATL
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t’s not like they had cap space to get into a bidding war over a high caliber player.
So if getting into a bidding war would be what it takes, would they do it?
I don’t think they would.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:52 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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So if getting into a bidding war would be what it takes, would they do it?
A big part of the problem is they can't. When Dallas overpaid Harrison Barnes, the Pels wanted to be the team that did that instead of spending their money on Hill/Moore, they couldn't even get in the room to make a pitch. You have to walk before you can run and with the top down problems this organization has, do you really think willingness to spend is even top 5 on what needs to be fixed?
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:58 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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Only the Bucks are a contending team/have a top 10 player with a cap sheet close to ours.
The Sixers? The Nuggets? Teams like Utah and Indiana are solid teams with less salary too
On the other side, the Wizards spend a lot. Miami spends a lot. Memphis and Detroit spend a lot. How's that working out? Spending the most does not mean title contender.
And, as ATL pointed out, there was no mechanism for the Pels to spend more this summer once they decided they didnt want to give Cousins a max.
Plenty of reasons to drag this organization. Player salaries is possibly the silliest choice
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:59 pm to TigerinATL
Absolutely it falls a solid number two behind replacing Loomis as POBO
Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:07 pm to corndeaux
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On the other side, the Wizards spend a lot. Miami spends a lot. Memphis and Detroit spend a lot. How's that working out? Spending the most does not mean title contender
Just because it hasn’t worked out doesn’t mean it wasn’t the right call, like the Boogie trade itself.
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Plenty of reasons to drag this organization. Player salaries is possibly the silliest choice
Not really, but if you people are convinced we have the owner committed to do whatever takes, I wouldn’t be able to convince you either way.
There are bad owners, mediocre ones and good ones in the nba.
At best, Benson is fringe mediocre, but I’ll listen to any case that you have to that she’s a good one.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:06 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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Just because it hasn’t worked out doesn’t mean it wasn’t the right call, like the Boogie trade itself.
So the Pels should always spend as much money as possible? By this logic, they should have maxed out Cousins because that would show they care about winning? Is that your point?
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you people are convinced we have the owner committed to do whatever takes
How you get to this from either of my posts in this thread is impressive. I thought you said you were a smart one
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:19 pm to corndeaux
No that’s a general take on fans.
And no, what I’m saying is that spending money is for the most part a good call.
Should the Pels offered Boogie the max? IDK,
Should the Pistons have traded for Blake and signed Reggie?yes
Risks are well, risky...but when you have a generational talent...you have to take risks.
And no, what I’m saying is that spending money is for the most part a good call.
Should the Pels offered Boogie the max? IDK,
Should the Pistons have traded for Blake and signed Reggie?yes
Risks are well, risky...but when you have a generational talent...you have to take risks.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:09 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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At best, Benson is fringe mediocre, but I’ll listen to any case that you have to that she’s a good one.
She hasn't been acting owner for half a season yet. Even if you count Tom's tenure, there is still very little history to go off of.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:19 pm to corndeaux
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And, as ATL pointed out, there was no mechanism for the Pels to spend more this summer once they decided they didnt want to give Cousins a max.
There was one avenue and the Pels were willing to do so, but Boogie refused to do any S&T’s out of spite.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:05 pm to NOFOX
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I think we will see an almost complete house cleaning.
Dat Process™
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:28 pm to Machine
If anyone reads Reddit, you should know about the reverse Ringer curse
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:25 pm to NOFOX
I’ve heard that rumor and I’m sure there is a shrard of truth but I don’t buy that the market was great for Boogs, especially since only Boston and GSW really even kicked the tires.
I love Boogs & hope for a reunion (a snowballs chance in hell lol)
I love Boogs & hope for a reunion (a snowballs chance in hell lol)
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:32 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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I don’t buy that the market was great for Boogs
There were technical complications to doing a S&T because it had to be a 3 year deal. No other team was going to pay him much with his injury and why would he commit to a 3 year deal with the market buying low? Some of the rumored deals were him getting in the ball park of $10-$15 million in a S&T for Harkless. There were a couple of more low ball rumored attempts like that, because again nobody wanted to pay him much, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:49 pm to TigerinATL
I heard Portland, but that’s not something I ever bought,tbh.
Nurkic is legit and that roster isn’t big enough for both them(plus they hate each other).
Harkless is garbage(imo) and being traded for him is something that might actually damage his rep more than all of his history.
Regardless, the market sucked for Boogs...& understandability so.
Nurkic is legit and that roster isn’t big enough for both them(plus they hate each other).
Harkless is garbage(imo) and being traded for him is something that might actually damage his rep more than all of his history.
Regardless, the market sucked for Boogs...& understandability so.
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