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Stan Van Gundy tweets about the anthem

Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:52 am
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:52 am
In regards to Dallas no longer playing it:

quote:

This should happen everywhere. If you think the anthem needs to be played before sporting events, then play it before every movie, concert, church service and the start of every work day at every business. What good reason is there to play the anthem before a game?


Glad the Pellies are playing well.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 6:53 am
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:54 am to
I agree. Totally pointless.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5871 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:20 am to
He’s right
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:22 am to
While I generally disagree with literally everything Stan says, I agree with this one. Playing the anthem before games has always been bizarre to me.

What I don’t agree with is WHY they are stopping playing it.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:28 am to
Forced patriotism and shallow displays of patriotism aren't really patriotism at all. Then again, we've seen how severely bastardized the idea of patriotism has become.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:39 am to
It’s a relic of WWI and WWII military recruitment and PR that in modern times has morphed into a fairly empty display of pageantry often in service of stoking a jingoistic flavor of patriotism and cultural identity.

People say they want politics out of their sports but then they demand to keep a politically rooted performative act of pageantry that, amongst other things, has increasingly been used to launder and smooth down complex American foreign policy into simple narratives about “freedom” and “exceptionalism” and promote recruitment(the military partially justifies their millions a year in flyovers, bands, marches, and such as recruitment tools) as a means to rally support for recent and continued acts of American military adventurism(see the notable rise in military involvement in sports after 9/11 and the run up to Iraq).

The founding fathers didn’t want monuments, loyalty tests, pageantry, and excessive idolatry, but yet here we are morphing the beginning of basically every American sport into a measuring stick in the minds of many Americans for whether you are sufficiently loyal and respectful by way of pressuring social adherence to a list of gestures aimed toward idolatry and symbols in service of a simplistic and dumbed down concept of patriotism.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:40 am to
quote:

What I don’t agree with is WHY they are stopping playing it.


Only Mark Cuban has done this and so far I don’t think he has specifically said why has he?
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5727 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:55 am to
My understanding of the anthem compared to other activities is that it's an homage to the Olympics since the national anthems of the respective countries is played prior to every contest. Sports were initially created to honor the Gods and then it became about honoring country "in combat". It's tradition.
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:56 am to
I agree with Cuban and Van Gundy.

Instead of the Anthem, every game should be preceded by a public honoring of an exceptional serviceman/servicewoman.
Posted by bigberg2000
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Member since Sep 2005
70006 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:10 am to
I will be honest yall, I always thought it was sort of odd but it was fine as its what we did. It certainly isnt something that should be forced upon any team.
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
1942 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:15 am to
That would be a great idea. I would love to see that as well as frontline workers during this time.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35287 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:18 am to
I don't really care either way. I can't quite wrap my head around the people who have very strong opinions on this issue either way.

I'm here to watch basketball, it makes no difference to me whether or not the national anthem is played pregame.

ETA: As for the people who go nuts over this because it's removing something that honors our military/vets/etc, it definitely has the same flavor as the white people who fall over themselves being offended on behalf of POC
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:24 am to
The anthem is weird. The weirdest thing is kids saying the pledge. I always felt pretty awkward pledging my allegiance every morning before learning about right angles and shite.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10441 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:58 am to
To be honest, it makes sense at international events like the olympics, World Cup, world championships, etc because the athletes are playing for their country.

When it’s professional league it is not really meaning anything. I am fine if they take it out, but either do it for the whole league or everybody plays it. Be consistent.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:05 am to
quote:

What I don’t agree with is WHY they are stopping playing it.
I assumed he stopped playing it because it's an unneeded distraction, has he said his reason?
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7330 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:08 am to
Lets just play the black national anthem before every game. That'll make woke liberals like SVG happy, right?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166127 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:14 am to
Playing the anthem and watching people sing it has always been a part of the entertainment. Leave it to the cancel culture and everything is racists party to ruin the moment of unity we shared together. While they are all getting paid millions to play a game of basketball, instead of bitching about why they are the only ones having the anthem played, they should take it as a privilege that they are one of the last venues demonstrating such patriot pride. I also don't have much of an issue with if anthems are played before teams come out of the tunnel. The anthem shouldn't be about the players or what the frick their self privileged asses think is right or wrong about it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:15 am to
I’m assuming his reason based on many comments Cuban has made. I could be wrong.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20897 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:16 am to
Shut the frick up Chad.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:17 am to
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Shut the frick up Chad.



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