Springer vs Cam Thomas

I don’t think either go around 10 but Springer seems to be killing draft workouts so that could change in a week.

As for preference I’m not completely sure, but I think I would go Springer. More upside as a complete player.

I think cam thomas has more upside.

Springer has a higher floor to me.


Jaden springer has that old school guard kinda feel to me.

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I think cam thomas has more upside.

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Cam is such a one dimensional player that I think that really limits his effectiveness. I don’t see him with much upside defensively, as a playmaker, etc.

Springer has upside in all those areas.

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Could be better than CJ or he could be worse than Sexton

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What does this even mean?

Sexton as a 22 year old is arguably better than CJ is now. If you look at CJ’s stats the last 5 years, he’s basically what Sexton did this year. Sexton could end up being far better than CJ or he could level off and simply have a CJ like career which is very respectable.

I think a less confusing and more accurate statement would be. Cam’s ceiling is above CJ Mc and his floor is below Marcus Thorton’s. There is enough difference in those 2 players careers to say something like that lol.

Seeing a bunch if downvotes which I don’t care about, but it shows me people still have a stick up their arse about Sexton and/or don’t know anything about him. CJ’s best season is only a tiny bit better than what Sexton did at age 22 and CJ’s age 22 season wasn’t even close to Sexton’s.

That’s not even the point though. Your ceiling can’t be better than CJ McCollum and your floor can’t be worse than Colin Sexton. The players and the career outcomes are too similar. Wasn’t trying to hate, but the analogy or whatever it was wasn’t that clear based on the 2 players that were used.

If Cam Thomas’s worst is slightly lower than Collin Sexton at age 22, you sprint to the motherfrickin podium and take him. I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment though.

Also, he was elite at getting to the FT line in college, but I doubt he earns that kind of respect from NBA refs early on. He didn’t even get respect from the refs in LSU’s tourney game against Michigan.

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Cam is an elite scorer

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It's honestly hard for me to even call him an elite scorer. He can get hot, no doubt, but he also had stretches of the season when he was incredibly inefficient. The first 10 games of SEC play he shot 36.5% from the field. Shot 36.2% in SEC and NCAA Tourney play, actually 32.2% from 2 and his 3pt shooting (which was also bad in SEC play, 28.9%) boosted his shooting percentages to 36%.

The guy can score no doubt, but it's hard for me to see him scoring at such a level that it offsets his lack of ability in other areas.

Springer is getting a lot of buzz right now. Seems he's going to go higher than the mockers predicted.

I don't think Cam Thomas is worthy of the 10th overall pick, but I'll never understand why people think some skills can be developed (shooting, ball handling, etc.) and others can't (defense, in this case).

Does Cam Thomas lack the tools to be an average defensive player? I don't think so. He's solid athletically, and very strong for his age. Good frame to add good weight. Some guys just can't be decent defensively due to foot speed or size. I don't see that with Cam.

Was he lazy defensively at LSU? Yes, absolutely. Will he be lazy defensively in the NBA? I have no idea. That's on the scouts and coaching staff to decipher during interviews, just like they do when projecting guys will improve their other skills.

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It's honestly hard for me to even call him an elite scorer. He can get hot, no doubt, but he also had stretches of the season when he was incredibly inefficient. The first 10 games of SEC play he shot 36.5% from the field. Shot 36.2% in SEC and NCAA Tourney play, actually 32.2% from 2 and his 3pt shooting (which was also bad in SEC play, 28.9%) boosted his shooting percentages to 36%.

The guy can score no doubt, but it's hard for me to see him scoring at such a level that it offsets his lack of ability in other areas.

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I’m not sure if he had a complete efficient game all year. He jacked up so many shots that there was just no possible way he could end up hitting most of them in a single game. It seemed like his typical stat line was 5-16 FG with 9-11 FT. Even in his last game, I think he started off 7-7 then ended 10-23. Even when he couldn’t buy a basket the dude would just shoot. It was maddening.

The lack of defense and playmaking is just from a refusal to do anything but score. His absolute ceiling is a microwave 6th man. Im not sure how he even gets first round hype.