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Some SVG quotes from todays practice presser 12/7/2020

Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:12 pm
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Stan Van Gundy: “I think to respect the fans, your healthy players should be playing.”


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The Pelicans' first preseason game is a week from today. SVG says he's given it little thought. "I'm on what we're going to do at 6 p.m. tonight."


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Stan Van Gundy says today was about offensive install. That’s all they worked on in the morning.


Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:21 pm to
Trying to implement all new offensive and defensive schemes in two weeks? TWO WEEKS?

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:25 pm to
I mean, what do you want him to do? Try to use Gentry’s old system?

It’s obviously not ideal, but hopefully we get a defensive foundation down.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:29 pm to
Hayes is gonna be clueless on defense again the whole year
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:39 pm to
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"I'm on what we're going to do at 6 p.m. tonight."
Leave Stan alone, he's worried about what's for dinner tonight!
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:40 pm to
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I mean, what do you want him to do? Try to use Gentry’s old system?

It’s obviously not ideal, but hopefully we get a defensive foundation down.
Yea, I really think we may have undersold how tough the start of the year may be.

Lots of new faces, new coach, new system...and no time to really install much. I'm definitely a bit concerned about how that'll play out for us early on.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:43 pm to
This is another free hit year for me.

I'll be super happy with a top 10 pick if we suck

We should know what's happening with Lonzo and have a lot of the main guys under contract for the next 3-4 years.

Then we ramp it up from next year onwards
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 2:46 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:52 pm to
I'm expecting some growing pains for sure

But I've always felt like a huge chunk of defensive prowess in the NBA is built around coaching and effort.

Maybe we can muck up some games if SVG has our young team bought in to the process of playing good defense.
Posted by Earthquake
USA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:55 pm to
Why are you saying Hayes will be loss all season, are you saying he is retarded or something, no one has been in this system before, except for JJ so i don't see why he would be at a dis-advantage when it comes to learning the system
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:19 pm to
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Yea, I really think we may have undersold how tough the start of the year may be.


Stan has certainly been stressing how it's a long process, so you're probably right. But on paper I don't see how Bledsoe/Lonzo/Adams is much different that Jrue/Lonzo/Favors. Zion is in shape and Ingram is saying all the right things about defense, if you get any significant improvement from those 2 they should be much better on defense.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:27 pm to
Not trying to downplay the importance of coaching and scheme, but this is not football. These guys are professionals and most have been playing the majority of their lives.

Defense is defense, especially when Van Gundy expects everyone to man up on their guy and not get beat. They say he doesn't scheme help for just getting outright beat (that's where having Adams is going to be huge when guys do get beat). There are things that he'll want to do certain ways like defending the fast break, the pick and roll, iso, etc. but at the end of the day it's mostly about being held accountable.

Offensive sets may suffer a good deal more. To start we'll definitely be relying on transition points heavily. But basketball has staple plays for a reason and we'll find ways to score in the half court.

I'm not too worried about it, but I get if some people are.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:37 pm to
People gotta be realistic about the expectations especially early on in the season. I expect plenty of breakdowns and communication issues the first couple of weeks. Individual defense is nice and all but SVG defense will require these guys to be in sync with some good chemistry. There’s no way around it. It’s going to take time.

The offense will be fine and will probably have to carry them early on.

We have a really tough schedule going into the season. I don’t expect great defense but I expect to see some brilliant stretches as they continue to play with each other and develop that chemistry.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:46 pm to
I agree. Defense is defense. If you have high iq players, which i think we have a good bit of, having a new scheme isn't that big of a deal. It's really all about holding individuals accountable. SUre there will be some growing pains, but i do'nt expect it to be that big of a deal.

Having a new offensive scheme is a bigger deal to me. That's something that takes time to implement, and time for guys to understand how to play off each other in this type of offense. Not saying guys wing it all the time, but offenses allow players to go off the script when you see an opportunity, and learning when to do that takes some getting used to.


Having only 2 weeks does suck, but it's basketball, and they've been playing it their whole lives. It's not that hard to pick up new things when you have a high bball iq and you give effort. I do think this is somethign that is going to be a problem for Jaxson, but hopefully playing behind Adams he can learn a few things. That's the biggest advantage to having Adams, allowing Hayes to develop under someone who knows what the frick they are doing on the defensive side of the ball.
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
2057 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:48 pm to
Being young and able to run up and down the court can hide some of the half court issues on both sides while learning a new system, but I'm also not expecting a radical system that would take a lot of time to learn anyway. Much of growing pains will come from playing the system in actualy games, something that'd help some to have more preseason games but is mostly learned in regular season anyway.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 4:16 pm to
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But on paper I don't see how Bledsoe/Lonzo/Adams is much different that Jrue/Lonzo/Favors
I guess there's just 2 parts to it. One being getting comfortable with your teammates and the 2nd with a new coach/system.

Had we brought the gang back, we'd still have the new coach/system hurdle, but we're adding to that dynamic, a few new faces who also have to get used to playing with their new teammates.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 4:18 pm to
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Defense is defense, especially when Van Gundy expects everyone to man up on their guy and not get beat. They say he doesn't scheme help for just getting outright beat (that's where having Adams is going to be huge when guys do get beat). There are things that he'll want to do certain ways like defending the fast break, the pick and roll, iso, etc. but at the end of the day it's mostly about being held accountable.


I mean to an extent I agree that most of these guys came up in highly competitive leagues and are more than familiar with basic defensive concepts(though that is also why I think Hayes may lag in that regard because he truly only has been playing a few years and all he learned in year one is likely being adjusted in year two and less familiar to him than other young players). Though to another extent, I don't quite agree.

There are quite a lot of variations in how you execute defending in the NBA(as you somewhat alluded to) and a heck of a lot of game to game prep that needs to be adhered to so you don't do things like the Pels habitually did last year like leave good role-playing shooters open, guard too heavily on non-shooters, shading or icing players properly based on the team concept and a given players strengths and weaknesses. And given a bunch of comments he has made over the last year about where he sees teams finding on-court competitive advantages and meaningful innovation, I would all but guarantee we are going to see some zone worked into that system.

Offensively Im sort of expecting, like with a lot of coaching transitions, you arent going to be throwing everything out with the bathwater. When Gentry and Kerr took over the Warriors they didn't completely throw out the old playbook, they continued using a good bit but just adjusting a lot of what was already there while throwing in some new strategies to better diversify and utilize the talent and skills certain players had. Like one thing I think SVG has hinted at is emphasizing not giving up offensive boards to the other team in pursuit of the fast break. Which probably means we won't be seeing Zion leak out and leave rebounding to everyone else, he probably stays home more often and we probably start seeing him take the ball up in transition some.
Posted by Pelicansfan69
Member since Oct 2019
304 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 6:08 pm to
All I know is that Steven Adams said he signed an extension because SVG was coach and he liked the talent. Zion said he liked SVG as well.

The MOST important thing a coach needs to do is to get his players to play for him. And if he had those 2 buying in already it’s a great sign.
Posted by lovepurplelivegold14
Member since Jun 2014
391 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:48 pm to
My thing is if the Pels start 0-2 don't melt. We start with Toronto, who is a veteran team, and then play Miami on Christmas. All I'm looking for is an improvement of the small things we were just awful at last year. Free throw shooting, unforced turnovers, stagnant half court offense, and bad team defense. Those aren't huge changes that will take weeks to learn. Those are things good coaches preach. If we improve in just those categories, I am happy
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4349 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:58 pm to
I would say improvement can also be measured by how much the losses are by than how many losses we start out the early part of the season with.

I we are getting blown out and losing by 15+ consistently, that's a bad sign. If we are losing by less than 10 most nights, we are on the right track.

Too often this team could get blown out on any given night under Gentry.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32328 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:15 am to
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I guess there's just 2 parts to it. One being getting comfortable with your teammates and the 2nd with a new coach/system.

Lonzo and Favors were both new last season, so Jrue didn’t really have familiarity with them, he was also the only one of those 3 that was familiar with Gentry. Sure they had a bit longer training camp, but how long is a typically NBA training camp?

Is the argument what this team could be if we kept Jrue and Favors this season, or a comparison of what this team is this season versus what it was last season?

ETA: we had more new faces in the rotation last year than we do this year. JJ, Favors, Zion, BI, Lonzo, Hart, Hayes, Melli, and NAW were all new faces in rotation last season.
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 7:27 am
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