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re: Shams says Pelicans are “aggressively pursuing” a top 2-3 pick for Scoot

Posted on 6/14/23 at 2:41 am to
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1344 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 2:41 am to
Idk what will happen but would like to keep BI, Murphy, Jones, and Dyson.

The rest you can do whatever to get better and/or save cap.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11179 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:32 am to
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but would like to keep BI, Murphy, Jones, and Dyson.


4 wings that you can't play together, can't even play 3 at the same time extended minutes..
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6046 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 5:55 am to
The more and more I think about it, the more I'm willing to trade Zion.

He's been here four years and it's been nothing but drama. Griff is on the record saying how stressful it was to build a team around LeBron and maintain that.

We've never gotten concrete evidence that Zion wants to be here. Always felt more like "damage control" when he'd make any public comments alluding to the rumors.

I do think Scoot and Zion would be dynamite together on the court, however, I think they'd also get figured out. Zion hasn't shown a willingness to expand his game since he's been here and with Scoot being such a downhill player getting to the paint, I wonder if the spacing would be off. I don't think they compliment each other long term. BI, on the other hand, has expanding his game every year. I think they could be a better fit. Just need a vertical spacing big and a stretch four to maximize Scoot's talent.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7647 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:13 am to
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We've never gotten concrete evidence that Zion wants to be here.


Only a week ago he was trying to move several different women here.. what more do you want?
Posted by LilWezyAna
BR
Member since Feb 2016
3185 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:28 am to
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can't even play 3 at the same time extended minutes..

BI + Herb + Trey was one of our best big minute 3 man lineup combinations last year. It amazes me how consistently horrible your takes are. Truly never fails
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8722 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:33 am to
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BI + Herb + Trey was one of our best big minute 3 man lineup combinations last year. It amazes me how consistently horrible your takes are. Truly never fails


Yea I mean why would we want to play an elite shooter, an elite defender, and a strong shot creator together? Even on paper that sounds like an awesome 3 man fit lol
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17333 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:37 am to
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Only a week ago he was trying to move several different women here.. what more do you want?

I told someone the other day Zion is the one of our two star players that actually lives in NOLA full time, I don’t understand the narrative of people still saying he doesn’t want to be here.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:51 am to
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4 wings that you can't play together, can't even play 3 at the same time extended minutes..


Huh? This is a really dumb take, Mark. You have 2 guys that can guard 1-4, an all-star 3-level scorer, an elite 3 point shooter than can potentially guard 3-5. If Herb and Dyson can approach league-average from 3, there is no reason those 4 can't be part of a very legit closing lineup.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4318 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:55 am to
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4 wings that you can't play together, can't even play 3 at the same time extended minutes..





Thats just not true. BI and trey can shoot. Dyson and herb are active cutters who make good decisions.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15778 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:04 am to
I honestly think the only player I wouldn't trade for Scoot is BI. The rest are kind of dependent on what else we have to give up.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8112 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:18 am to
Starting to think this is something was never actually in the cards and that this is possibly just an attempt to send a clear message to Zion that he’s no longer immune to trade discussions. So get it together or you’re out
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:21 am to
Mac has some interesting tweets stating our analytics dept is high on keeping Zion and trading BI on Scoot but willie, griff and CJ prefer trading Zion for Scoot. He also has stated both portland and charlotte prefer BI to Zion. Givony on espn even stated Pelicans offering BI to Hornets on draft night could change things up. Remember Kupchack (formerly of Lakers) drafted BI in LA and is a huge fan as well. If Charlotte prefers BI, it just depends on if Pels are willing to part with him for Scoot. Thats a hard sell considering how much BI has been touted the leader of this group.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:22 am to
This isn’t a message to Zion. I think they really really like Scoot. I’m not saying this trade will happen but dont be surprised if it does.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25780 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:23 am to
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Mac has some interesting tweets


I.E. some bullshite
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:24 am to
Sure but not like any of these other local guys are saying anything. Take with a grain of salt.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8112 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:29 am to
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This isn’t a message to Zion


You have no idea what you're talking about, and have admitted as much
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1709 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:32 am to
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Starting to think this is something was never actually in the cards and that this is possibly just an attempt to send a clear message to Zion that he’s no longer immune to trade discussions. So get it together or you’re out


This has been the most ridiculous talking point I have heard from people. (I don’t mean just you)

Hey Zion, we’ll trade you back to the Carolina’s to play with your bff’s brother, Lamelo. Yeah, that’ll show him.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8112 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:33 am to
Oh you mean the kind of thing that organizations do all the time to show a player is expendable? How insane
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1709 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:36 am to
Yes, insane is a good word. I think Zion would embrace a trade from NO to Charlotte. That’s ridiculous to pretend that is some sort of threat. Are we going to threaten him with more strippers next to make sure we mean business?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:38 am to
Ok let me ask you this? What happens if this pisses Zion and his crew off and they demand a trade? This is literally not what you want to do and in all honesty with superstars not the smartest thing to do in todays NBA.
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