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Macintosh504
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Yeah you’d think a guy who wants to be respected would propose a trade that is actually doable


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TeddyPadillac
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
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FYI the trade he proposes doesn’t work cap wise.

It does work with Temple instead of Musa


Yeah that's the first sign that someone doesn't know what they are talking about, and why i said use Temple instead.


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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
It would take one more small contract to work with Musa, or a 3 team trade with another contract going out for the Nets, some variation of that. Its only off by about 3 mill I think.


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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Nets fans on Reddit are sort of melting over this idea.


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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
People really value their young players and don’t understand win now timetables. Warriors fans rather get John Collins or something other unproven youngster than Jrue in a trade. Fans are stupid


TeddyPadillac
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
rightfully so.

They are stupid to want to move Jarrett Allen and keep DJ.

But adding Jrue to Kyrie and Durant would make them a very strong title contender. Durant is already a good defender himself, then you add Jrue and you still have a great rim protector? that's a really strong team. Jrue as a teams 3rd best player is a really really good team.

I kind of wish Jrue would go to Miami. If we trade him, i want him going somewhere i can cheer for him. He'd fit in great with them.


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Fun Bunch
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
We do the same thing for sure, but we aren't in win now mode currently.

I think the Nets would give up way way more than people think to get a player like Jrue. KD was just singing his praises the other day. I would not be surprised if KD told management "go get him, frick these kids".

I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to put a multi-team trade together wherein they get Jrue and JJ.


TigerinATL
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
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I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to put a multi-team trade together wherein they get Jrue and JJ.


And they should. Brooklyn needs to maximize the next 2-3 years. You don't want to be too top heavy and kill your depth, but Jrue and JJ help Brooklyn now way more than most of their other players and assets.


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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
I'm trying to come up with a 3rd team that may want Prince, Dinwiddie or Lavert, and would give up something to make salaries work and perfect a 3 team deal.

They would like have to give up Dinwiddie, Levert, Prince, and Allen to make it work.

If not Allen, then a combo of 2 lower tier guys but I'm sure the Pels would want Allen, at least I would think. There may be a team where ISO Levert works better, and he is a good player that a team would give value for.


TigerinATL
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
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give up Dinwiddie, Levert, Prince, and Allen to make it work.


For the money to work you can swap out Temple for one of Dinwiddie/Prince.

Brooklyn gets Jrue/JJ and sends out

Levert
Allen
Temple
Dinwiddie or Prince

After the trade Jrue would be their only good perimeter defender, so I'm thinking maybe they keep Prince and give up Dinwiddie. Didn't Langdon help discover everyone on that list besides Temple? I could see keeping all 4 of them.
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Toronto would probably take on Levert in a S&T of Van Vleet if we could talk him into signing here.

Along the lines of:

Toronto: Levert

Pels: Dinwiddie or Prince (gimme Prince), FVV, Allen

Nets: JJ,Jrue

Send Ball to NYK for #8 still. Take future picks from Toronto and Nets.
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
You can't, to my knowledge, combine the S&T of a player into a larger deal with other players/teams.

And the league could veto it if they think its part of the same deal.


TeddyPadillac
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Nets get Jrue/JJ/2020 Washington 2nd

Pels get Beal/JAllen/Temple/#19

Wizards get LeVert/Lonzo/Dinwiddie/#13/Top 4 protected Pels '21 first

That would save us $12M in cap space too.
Go sign VanVleet to a 4/$80

VanVleet
Beal
Ingram
Zion
Allen

Let's ride.
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Dantheman504
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Uhh.. Jrue- 26 mil
Redick-13 mil = 39 mil out

Beal- 27mil
Allen- 4 mil
Temple 5 mil = 36 mil in

Not sure where you get 12mil in cap or how that helps us sign FVV @ 20 million?

Edit: and you want to give up a 1st and Wizards walk away with the most assets while giving up the least??
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TigerinATL
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
It think that trade could work depending on how the Wizards feel about Lonzo. That's good value all around for all 3 teams and gives each one what it's looking for.


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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Kind of a waste of time to lump in a Beal deal with this, that isn't happening.

Think a little smaller than that.


Dantheman504
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Pels: Dinwiddie, LaVert, Musa, Prince

Nets: Jrue, JJ

I guess throw in picks if needed from either side.


I'd rather use cap on someone other than Prince, like a Center but he could be a solid role player.


Dantheman504
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Wish people looked at logic and value > names. You have to have cap space and beyond that teams are either building for the future or winning now. Different players are gonna be valued a good bit different depending on the window of that team.

That's why JJ for a cheap, veteran, solid shooter has a high value for contenders and lower value for rebuild. Same with Jrue. Lonzo is the opposite because a rebuilding team values his 5 years more. Does everyone understand this? The value of CP3 or Beal to us is beyond what we should give up considering we aren't a contender.


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Fun Bunch
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
My goal would be to have other teams involved and see if we can get Prince to one of them (most Nets fans think that Prince has negative value, neutral value at best).

Also I do not think Levert fits next to BI and Zion. He's a really good player, but if you can convince a team to give up a player or players of comparable value that fit better you try and work them in.


Dantheman504
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re: Scoop B says we want to trade for CP3
Our best chance may be

Pels: Dinwiddie, LaVert, Musa, Center
from 3rd team

Nets: JJ, Jrue

3rd team: Lonzo, Prince


That 3rd team is the question BUT what if we can get a 4 team with Detroit and Pacers?

Rose, Turner, #7..etc all 4 have assets and I believe want to make moves.

Pels: Dinwiddie, LaVert, Musa, Turner, #7

Nets: JJ, Jrue

Detroit: Lonzo

Pacers: Prince, Miller contract, pels future 1st

Maybe throw in Rose somewhere or keep him out?

We would actually save about 6-7 mil from this aswell

This post was edited on 9/16 at 3:29 pm


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