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re: Rorhbach speculates Harden to Pels in one of many scenarios

Posted on 10/17/20 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Boston could destroy that package. They could trade Brown, Hayward, Williams, 3 1sts this year (14, 26, 30) and a future 1st (2022) for Harden and Gordon.. Houston gets to dump Gordon and a tons of assets.. Boston has a monster trio (Walker, Harden and Tatum) and would be a contender for the next 2-3 years..


There is no way Boston would trade a controlled asset like brown, who has yet to hit his potential, and trade for Harden. He's borderline untouchable and that leaves them vulnerable still against elite big men. Their current setup with patience or making a trade for a big man would make them contenders for 5+ years.

Now if you say Washington with beal? Philly with Simmons? Indy with sabonis? Sure
Posted by brmark70816
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 4:45 pm to
So if Boston offered that, would it be a better deal? Houston would jump at that, right?
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 4:46 pm to
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Now ask yourself what team would be able to give more


OKC
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 5:28 pm to
Harden and CP3 would be a formidable duo. I could see that working.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 7:20 pm to
That's not a realistic deal. Considering they only wanted to part with brown IF it gave them AD. AD's value is higher than harden's. On top of the fact that there's a trade for fit and Harden does not fit that system and somehow they go from 3 wings to 1, yet still not addressing their lack of a big man.

By that argument, we should just throw in Ingram instead of jrue.

I stand by that argument, there's not many teams who would generate better trades.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 7:35 pm to
This is the key to getting Boom unbanned from Pels talk
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Eman5805
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Member since Nov 2010
5098 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 7:55 pm to
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Anyone else hopes this advertising slogan disappears? Never liked it.

Has anyone ever liked their team's latest slogan when they're losing? Besides Falcons fans, I guess.

...who am I kidding. I'm still a fan of "Do it Big" Doesn't work without two elite bigs anymore, but still.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:08 pm to
He always has the ball in his hands
Harden is a hell of a passer
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:37 pm to
Naaa hard pass
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:04 pm to
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He always has the ball in his hands
That's part of what I mentioned above, how would we have any idea of Harden was willing to switch up his game?

Harden has the ball in his hands so much and makes plays in iso. But when he doesn't have the ball in his hand, he offers nothing to an offense, he basically takes those plays off to rest up for when he'll get the ball next play.

That's just not what this team needs with Ingram and Zion, unless we would be extremely confident he was willing to completely change his game up to fit this team's style.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:04 pm to
Supposedly the Bulls are floating packages. The one I saw was Porter, Lavine, Markkanen and pick #4 for Harden and Gordon. Seems like a good deal for both sides.. Honestly, I think that is a better package than we got for Davis..
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:17 pm to
Because Harden plays an unrealistic brand of non winning basketball.

He gets trashed in the playoffs.

He would hinder Zion and BI, who are the future at this point.

We would rather have a young team roll like the Celtics than sell the house for a turd like Harden.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 12:18 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:03 am to
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That's guaranteed 80-90pts a night between three guys.





A 30-30-30 GAME has only happened a few times in NBA history and you think we might could average those type of numbers for an entire season?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:10 am to
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Because Harden plays an unrealistic brand of non winning basketball.

He gets trashed in the playoffs.



Listen, I’ll be the first to say that Harden does rely on a lot of tricks and exploitations that play well in the regular season but come a bit unglued in the post season, but let’s keep in mind his team was an injury away from shocking an all time historical Warriors team the other year.

There is also nothing I have seen where if you have Harden, say, replacing Steph on the Warriors, that such a team wouldn’t win multiple championships as well.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:16 am to
Harden has lacked competent offensive players next to him in Houston. Zion & Ingram would immediately shoot up to two of the best players he’s played with, outside of Westbrook this past season. Both Ingram & Zion are better compliments to Harden than Westbrook.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18097 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 6:45 pm to
For sure - Pels were one of the worse teams in the bubble. It was beyond pathetic. And Jrue and Lonzo were worthless getting the Pels to a winning season. Dump them in a flash.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:04 pm to
Only on this board do people believe that Ingram is superior to Westbrook..
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