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Rich Paul Rule
Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:55 pm
Not Pelicans related, but I wanted to hear what y'all thought about everyones favorite agent Rich Paul and the new rules the NCAA passed, basically preventing underclassmen that are considering declaring for the draft, to work with him or seek out his counsel without losing their eligibility.
LINK
I know its ticked off Lebron and Klutch, so I had a good laugh about it. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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One year ago, the NCAA announced college basketball players testing the NBA draft waters would be able to seek the guidance of an agent without losing their eligibility. On Tuesday, the NCAA issued a memo fine-tuning the restrictions around which agents athletes are allowed to hire. A underclassman can work with an agent and retain his eligibility should he decide to return to school provided that the agent:
Has a bachelor’s degree
Has been certified by the NBAPA for the last three years
Passes an in-person exam administered at the NCAA national office in Indianapolis
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I know its ticked off Lebron and Klutch, so I had a good laugh about it. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:32 pm to RUFshreve
It's stupid.
All it did was make Paul look better, which was a near impossible bar to clear. Never change, NCAA
All it did was make Paul look better, which was a near impossible bar to clear. Never change, NCAA
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:39 pm to RUFshreve
It doesn’t seem the college athletes RP goes after are bubble guys that could potentially return for a second year, so it really won’t affect him much at all.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:44 pm to WB504
quote:Don't let that get in the way of a narrative
It doesn’t seem the college athletes RP goes after are bubble guys that could potentially return for a second year, so it really won’t affect him much at all.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:48 pm to RUFshreve
Makes sense.
Dont have dropouts advising kids to drop out.
Dont have dropouts advising kids to drop out.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:49 pm to RUFshreve
I actually think the rule was to keep a new Rich Paul from coming into power, or really someones "friend"/uncle/stepdad from signing up to represent an athlete only to take advantage of them. I honestly think the NCAA did this to try and ensure the athlete's best interests were being fulfilled but Lebron and his camp is probably better at playing victim than he even is at basketball
Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:19 pm to Olric
quote:
I actually think the rule was to keep a new Rich Paul from coming into power, or really someones "friend"/uncle/stepdad from signing up to represent an athlete only to take advantage of them. I honestly think the NCAA did this to try and ensure the athlete's best interests were being fulfilled but Lebron and his camp is probably better at playing victim than he even is at basketball
Yep.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 3:46 pm to Olric
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honestly think the NCAA did this to try and ensure the athlete's best interests were being fulfilled
That would be a first for the NCAA.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 3:55 pm to corndeaux
Well it also serves the purpose of keeping marginal professional players eligible on an amateur level which would improve their product
Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:19 pm to bluebarracuda
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:40 pm to DomincDecoco
Really don’t care. However, how’s about he lets his clients keep their word and honor their contracts before complaining about the rule.
Side note it’s also ironic because Lebron and Rich Paul have a built in tempering leverage with NBA players because his boss is LeBron.
Side note it’s also ironic because Lebron and Rich Paul have a built in tempering leverage with NBA players because his boss is LeBron.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:42 pm to Olric
Perhaps.
I'd love to see the data that supports the claim that there are too many marginal amateur players going pro early AND that agents w/o college degrees or an NCAA stamp of approval are giving bad advice to those amateur players
I'd love to see the data that supports the claim that there are too many marginal amateur players going pro early AND that agents w/o college degrees or an NCAA stamp of approval are giving bad advice to those amateur players
Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:46 pm to corndeaux
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I'd love to see the data that supports the claim that there are too many marginal amateur players going pro early AND that agents w/o college degrees or an NCAA stamp of approval are giving bad advice to those amateur players
Doesn't matter. Taking steps to stop it preemptively is a positive step.
>Has a bachelor’s degree - has enough competency to get a college degree
>Has been certified by the NBAPA for the last three years - has been certified by the PLAYERS ASSOCIATION so some trust in being competent/trustworthy
>Passes an in-person exam administered at the NCAA national office in Indianapolis - won't have an excuse for violations of NCAA rules
As I wrote in the MSB thread on this subject, these are such common-sense steps that it's almost impossible to think these were meant to stop just Rich Paul. In fact, it's kinda surprising some of these rules weren't already in place.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:21 am to bbrownso
quote:The absurd thing about this whole fiasco is that the NBAPA also has a rule for certification that requires a bachelors degree, but they have the ability to waive that requirement on a case by case basis.
Has been certified by the NBAPA for the last three years - has been certified by the PLAYERS ASSOCIATION so some trust in being competent/trustworthy
Not to mention the NFL and MLB also require it.
But let's get outraged and act like this is something new and discriminatory. The outrage culture today is...something.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:28 am to RUFshreve
It’s not even a rich Paul rule. The rule most likely was put in place to ensure players only get reputable agents. It’s not the NCAA’s fault rich Paul doesn’t have a degree. Lebron thinks everything is about him. Nobody thought through why the NCAA would actually make this rule.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:34 am to Epic Cajun
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they have the ability to waive that requirement on a case by case basis.
That + NCAA "approved" are big differences. The NCAA is effectively dictating to players who they can and cannot speak to for what may be the most important decision of their lives.
It's a rule made w/o any evidence to support it, which is always dumb.
See my post above- is there any data that amateurs are getting bad advice from agents w/o college degrees and/or any data that agents w/ college degrees give better advice?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:39 am to Mad Scientist26
quote:
Side note it’s also ironic because Lebron and Rich Paul have a built in tempering leverage with NBA players because his boss is LeBron.
I really don't think David Stern would have let it get to this point without handling it.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:59 am to dagrippa
The fact that millionaires trust their financial future to a dude who got to where he is by selling jerseys out of a trunk always amazes me.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:16 am to corndeaux
quote:I feel like this is a stretch. Speak to is different from being represented by, right?
The NCAA is effectively dictating to players who they can and cannot speak to
quote:Just because you weren't shown the evidence, doesn't mean that there isn't some evidence.
It's a rule made w/o any evidence to support it, which is always dumb.
I don't see how an education requirement is a bad thing. There are tons of professional jobs in the world that require an education. I would take it a step further and say that I wouldn't want someone representing me without a law degree. I assume that it makes the entire process much easier when your representation understands legal contracts, the rules of the NCAA, and the NBA CBA. Does a college degree guarantee that? Not necessarily, but it does show some level of intellectual/education disposition.
ETA: also, where do you see NCAA "approved"?
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 9:19 am
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