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Pels not eager to trade Graham
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:20 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:20 am
Gotta think they want to see how his play off the bench is next season.
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The New Orleans Pelicans are not as motivated to trade Devonte' Graham this offseason as they were last year with Eric Bledsoe, sources tell Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report. Graham fell out of the playoff rotation, but that may have been more due to injury misfortune than a personnel decision by Willie Green.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:24 am to Soggymoss
What injury misfortune? Did Graham have some injury I don't know about?
Could be posturing to try and make it seem that they don't want to move him but reluctantly would.
Could be posturing to try and make it seem that they don't want to move him but reluctantly would.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:26 am to Soggymoss
Not exactly what any of us wanted to hear. Sounds like we are not interested in giving up an asset to dump him
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:27 am to Soggymoss
Probably for the best. It’s a bad idea to trade him while his value is low. I think it’s a good call to see if they can recover his value in the 2022 season before deciding what to do with him. I think there’s a better chance you can recover his value vs realistically getting something better in return right now.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:27 am to Soggymoss
I'm with Bunchie, it's got to be posturing.
Graham's contract is very much needed in any move you make to bolster the bench. Hayes too.
Graham's contract is very much needed in any move you make to bolster the bench. Hayes too.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:27 am to Soggymoss
Bledsoe was someone who didn’t want to be there to begin with and resented being shipped out of Milwaukee IIRC.
Graham still has a role here if the team shapes up right. Just an overpaid one given his contract.
Graham still has a role here if the team shapes up right. Just an overpaid one given his contract.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:37 am to Soggymoss
This reads as "we're not going to give up extra shite to get rid of him... but if you want him, we're listening..."
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:42 am to Soggymoss
quote:These rumors are always useless because maybe it's 100% true and the Pels want to keep him around.
Pels not eager to trade Graham
But if the Pels decided they wanted to get rid of him, this is also the exact rumors they'd put out to try anything to increase his value as much as they can.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:45 am to BallHawk
I don’t think it’s posturing. It makes no sense to give up an asset to move off Graham for someone slightly better unless there is another trade. Guaranteed rotation players are:
1. BI
2. CJ
3. Zion
4. Val
5. Herb
6. Nance
7. Trey
8. GTA
Then you still have a top 10 pick, Jaxson and Kira who the team are young guys the team likely wants to see what they have. So unless you’re combining Graham with other players and assets for a sure fire starter, I don’t really want to combine him with a pick for a 7-9th man who will just take minutes away from the young guys. Just let him and Kira battle it out for the 4th/5th guard spot and wait until there is a bigger move to make.
1. BI
2. CJ
3. Zion
4. Val
5. Herb
6. Nance
7. Trey
8. GTA
Then you still have a top 10 pick, Jaxson and Kira who the team are young guys the team likely wants to see what they have. So unless you’re combining Graham with other players and assets for a sure fire starter, I don’t really want to combine him with a pick for a 7-9th man who will just take minutes away from the young guys. Just let him and Kira battle it out for the 4th/5th guard spot and wait until there is a bigger move to make.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:51 am to teke184
quote:
Graham still has a role here if the team shapes up right. Just an overpaid one given his contract.
not really.
We obviously all love Jose, and he's going to be the backup PG, but his asset is pestering the opposing teams PG, and that would mean putting Graham on a SG, and he's incapable of guarding any SG in the league.
We need a legit backup SG. If Graham could play an ounce of defense, then he'd be fine, even being undersized, but he can't and therefore, we need someone capable of knocking down shots off the bench while not being a complete sieve on defense, and there's plenty of guys out there that can do that.
If Graham's offense was more in tune with what Jordan Clarkson and Will Barton and Tyler Herro do off the bench, then you'd be fine with it, but i'm not sure he can give you that kind of offense.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:00 am to TeddyPadillac
I’m guessing this also has something to do with Kira’s injury. We don’t know when he’ll return so holding on to Graham could be insurance. Jamal Murray couldn’t come back for the playoffs even after over a full year of recovery and Fultz took 14 months. I don’t expect Lewis to be back early in the 22 season.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:08 am to Fun Bunch
I may be remembering wrong but didn’t he have some sort of knee injury towards the end of the year that caused him to miss a few games?
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:09 am to Soggymoss
This is kinda meaningless until we know our draft pick and what player we get.
And Graham at the deadline will be more valuable than before the season easily.
And Graham at the deadline will be more valuable than before the season easily.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:11 am to saintslsupels
quote:
Not exactly what any of us wanted to hear.
Speak for yourself. I’d rather him on the roster if moving him requires an asset to be attached.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:13 am to Soggymoss
quote:
The New Orleans Pelicans are not as motivated to trade Devonte' Graham this offseason as they were last year with Eric Bledsoe
Also, this doesn’t suggest that they’re not eager to move him. Just that they’re not as eager as they were with Bledsoe, who they were desperate to get rid of.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:13 am to Soggymoss
As others have said, I think it is just Griff saying he is not "paying" to unload Graham. We really do not need to dump his salary until the following season when Zion's extension kicks in and we consider extending Nance.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:16 am to Soggymoss
Bledsoe was actively cancerous in the locker room with openly admitting to not giving a frick when he was supposed to provide leadership. You had to love him.
Graham just hasn’t played well but is a good locker room guy. He just makes too much for that so needs to start hitting shots so they can find an acceptable trade.
Graham just hasn’t played well but is a good locker room guy. He just makes too much for that so needs to start hitting shots so they can find an acceptable trade.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:18 am to NOSHAU
Why the rush to sell low on a player they just bought high on? Either he rebounds a bit, his contract becomes a better trade asset as time goes on, or both.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:19 am to Soggymoss
Hopefully they mean they aren’t willing to give up valuable assets to package him off somewhere but will trade him for something straight up.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:23 am to TotesMcGotes
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Why the rush to sell low on a player they just bought high on?
Pels will be up against the Lux so there are only two ways to improve the team this year.
1) Draft
2) Trade: Graham, Temple, Kira, Jax
So we either go into next year only adding a player in the draft, or a very minor trade with Temple/Kira/Jax involved, or a more major trade with Graham's salary involved.
The only way we can add anyone via MLE/FA is by dumping Graham's salary basically.
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