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Pelicans offseason thread: Pels hire SVG/draft Kira Lewis, trade rest of picks
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:57 pm
Time to move on to the offseason
Draft capital
2020
1st round, 13th pick - Kira Lewis PG, Alabama
1st round, 24th pick - RJ Hampton G, United States (traded to Denver for a lottery protected first round pick in 2023)
2nd round, 39th pick - Elijah Hughes SG, Syracuse (traded to Utah for a 2022 second round pick)
2nd round, 42nd pick - Nick Richards C, Kentucky (traded to Charlotte for a 2024 second round pick)
2021
First- NOP first, LAL first (1-7)*
Second- Worst of NOP/CHI, CLE and WSH
2022
First- NOP first, LAL first
Second- CLE, NOP, Utah
Free Agents
Brandon Ingram- RFA (re-signed 5/158)
Frank Jackson- RFA (signed w/OKC)
Kenrich Williams- RFA (traded to OKC)
Josh Gray- RFA (traded to OKC)
Zylan Cheatham- RFA (traded to OKC)
Derrick Favors- UFA (signed w/Utah)
E'Twaun Moore- UFA (signed w/PHX)
Jahlil Okafor- UFA (signed w/DET)
Lonzo and Hart are both extension eligible as well
Head Coach Hire
Stan Van Gundy
Trades and signings
Pelicans trade for Steven Adams and Eric Bledsoe
Sign Wenyen Gabriel, Sindarius Thornwell and Willy Hernangomez
Draft capital
2020
1st round, 13th pick - Kira Lewis PG, Alabama
1st round, 24th pick - RJ Hampton G, United States (traded to Denver for a lottery protected first round pick in 2023)
2nd round, 39th pick - Elijah Hughes SG, Syracuse (traded to Utah for a 2022 second round pick)
2nd round, 42nd pick - Nick Richards C, Kentucky (traded to Charlotte for a 2024 second round pick)
2021
First- NOP first, LAL first (1-7)*
Second- Worst of NOP/CHI, CLE and WSH
2022
First- NOP first, LAL first
Second- CLE, NOP, Utah
Free Agents
Brandon Ingram- RFA (re-signed 5/158)
Frank Jackson- RFA (signed w/OKC)
Kenrich Williams- RFA (traded to OKC)
Josh Gray- RFA (traded to OKC)
Zylan Cheatham- RFA (traded to OKC)
Derrick Favors- UFA (signed w/Utah)
E'Twaun Moore- UFA (signed w/PHX)
Jahlil Okafor- UFA (signed w/DET)
Lonzo and Hart are both extension eligible as well
Head Coach Hire
Stan Van Gundy
Trades and signings
Pelicans trade for Steven Adams and Eric Bledsoe
Sign Wenyen Gabriel, Sindarius Thornwell and Willy Hernangomez
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 12:15 pm
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:57 pm to fightingtigers98
Top NBA draft prospects - a composite of CBS, ESPN and The Ringer
Draft was set to take place October 15th, but the NBA pushed it back and the date is TBA
1. LaMelo Ball PG, United States
2. Anthony Edwards SG, Georgia
3. Killian Hayes PG, France
4. James Wiseman C, Memphis
5. Onyeka Okongwu C, USC
6. Tyrese Haliburton PG, Iowa State
7. Deni Avdija SF, Israel
8. Obi Toppin PF, Dayton
9. Isaac Okoro SF, Auburn
10. Devin Vassell SF, Florida State
11. Aaron Nesmith SF, Vanderbilt
12. Patrick Williams SF, Florida State
13. Cole Anthony PG, UNC
14. Tyrese Maxey SG, Kentucky
15. Kira Lewis PG, Alabama - Drafted by the Pelicans
16. Aleksej Pokusevski C, Serbia
17. Saddiq Bey SF, Villanova
18. Precious Achiuwa PF, Memphis
19. Josh Green SG, Arizona
20. RJ Hampton SG, United States
21. Theo Maledon PG, France
22. Tyrell Terry PG, Stanford
23. Jalen Smith C, Maryland
24. Nico Mannion PG, Arizona
25. Jaden McDaniels PF, Washington
26. Leandro Bolmaro SF, Argentina
27. Isaiah Stewart C, Washington
28. Jahmius Ramsey SG, Texas Tech
29. Desmond Bane SG, TCU
30. Robert Woodward SG, Mississippi State
31. Devon Dotson SG, Kansas
32. Isaiah Joe SG, Arkansas
33. Tyler Bey SG, Colorado
33. Cassius Winston PG, Michigan State
34. Xavier Tillman PF, Michigan State
35. Grant Riller PG, Charleston
36. Tre Jones PG, Duke
37. Malachi Flynn PG, San Diego State
38. Vernon Carey C, Duke
39. Cassius Stanley SG, Duke
40. Elijah Hughes SF, Syracuse
41. Zeke Nnaji C, Arizona
42. Jordan Nwora SF, Louisville
43. Paul Reed PF, DePaul
44. Payton Pritchard PG, Oregon
45. Daniel Oturu C, Minnesota
46. Killian Tille PF, Gonzaga
47. Yam Madar PG, Israel
48. Skylar Mays SG, LSU
49. Udoka Azubuike C, Kansas
50. Ashton Hagans PG, Kentucky
51. Abdoulaye N'Doye SF, France
52. Kenyon Martin Jr. SF, United States
53. Reggie Perry PF, Mississippi State
54. Markus Howard PG, Marquette
55. Lamine Diane SF, CS-Northridge
56. Sam Merrill SG, Utah State
57. Ty-Shon Alexander PG, Creighton
58. Karim Mane SG, Canada
59. Jay Scrubb SF, John A. Logan College
60. Saben Lee SG, Vanderbilt
Draft was set to take place October 15th, but the NBA pushed it back and the date is TBA
1. LaMelo Ball PG, United States
2. Anthony Edwards SG, Georgia
3. Killian Hayes PG, France
4. James Wiseman C, Memphis
5. Onyeka Okongwu C, USC
6. Tyrese Haliburton PG, Iowa State
7. Deni Avdija SF, Israel
8. Obi Toppin PF, Dayton
9. Isaac Okoro SF, Auburn
10. Devin Vassell SF, Florida State
11. Aaron Nesmith SF, Vanderbilt
12. Patrick Williams SF, Florida State
13. Cole Anthony PG, UNC
14. Tyrese Maxey SG, Kentucky
15. Kira Lewis PG, Alabama - Drafted by the Pelicans
16. Aleksej Pokusevski C, Serbia
17. Saddiq Bey SF, Villanova
18. Precious Achiuwa PF, Memphis
19. Josh Green SG, Arizona
20. RJ Hampton SG, United States
21. Theo Maledon PG, France
22. Tyrell Terry PG, Stanford
23. Jalen Smith C, Maryland
24. Nico Mannion PG, Arizona
25. Jaden McDaniels PF, Washington
26. Leandro Bolmaro SF, Argentina
27. Isaiah Stewart C, Washington
28. Jahmius Ramsey SG, Texas Tech
29. Desmond Bane SG, TCU
30. Robert Woodward SG, Mississippi State
31. Devon Dotson SG, Kansas
32. Isaiah Joe SG, Arkansas
33. Tyler Bey SG, Colorado
33. Cassius Winston PG, Michigan State
34. Xavier Tillman PF, Michigan State
35. Grant Riller PG, Charleston
36. Tre Jones PG, Duke
37. Malachi Flynn PG, San Diego State
38. Vernon Carey C, Duke
39. Cassius Stanley SG, Duke
40. Elijah Hughes SF, Syracuse
41. Zeke Nnaji C, Arizona
42. Jordan Nwora SF, Louisville
43. Paul Reed PF, DePaul
44. Payton Pritchard PG, Oregon
45. Daniel Oturu C, Minnesota
46. Killian Tille PF, Gonzaga
47. Yam Madar PG, Israel
48. Skylar Mays SG, LSU
49. Udoka Azubuike C, Kansas
50. Ashton Hagans PG, Kentucky
51. Abdoulaye N'Doye SF, France
52. Kenyon Martin Jr. SF, United States
53. Reggie Perry PF, Mississippi State
54. Markus Howard PG, Marquette
55. Lamine Diane SF, CS-Northridge
56. Sam Merrill SG, Utah State
57. Ty-Shon Alexander PG, Creighton
58. Karim Mane SG, Canada
59. Jay Scrubb SF, John A. Logan College
60. Saben Lee SG, Vanderbilt
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 5:30 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:03 pm to fightingtigers98
Trade breakdown:
Pelicans receive: Steven Adams(OKC), Eric Bledsoe(MIL), 2024 first-round swap rights from Bucks, 2025 first-round pick (unprotected) from Bucks, 2026 first-round swap rights from Bucks, 2027 first-round pick (unprotected) from Bucks
Pelicans trade: Jrue Holiday and Sam Merrill to Milwaukee, Josh Gray, Kenrich Williams, Darius Miller, Zylan Cheatham and two second round picks to Oklahoma City.
Other parts RJ Hampton -> Denver for a 2023 lottery protected first -> OKC
George Hill -> OKC
Pelicans receive: Steven Adams(OKC), Eric Bledsoe(MIL), 2024 first-round swap rights from Bucks, 2025 first-round pick (unprotected) from Bucks, 2026 first-round swap rights from Bucks, 2027 first-round pick (unprotected) from Bucks
Pelicans trade: Jrue Holiday and Sam Merrill to Milwaukee, Josh Gray, Kenrich Williams, Darius Miller, Zylan Cheatham and two second round picks to Oklahoma City.
Other parts RJ Hampton -> Denver for a 2023 lottery protected first -> OKC
George Hill -> OKC
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:10 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:06 pm to fightingtigers98
Pipe dream is to get James Wiseman somehow. I think he’s the best player in the draft imo
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:06 pm to fightingtigers98
Offseason Needs:
1.Competent, Consistent two way Guard
2.Wing Defender
3. Rim protector with soft hands and understanding of defensive rotations
4.Stretch Big: Shouldn’t gamble on Melli developing.
5. Vocal a-hole in the locker room with a Winning pedigree
6 Of course a coaching change. Lue, Kidd, or Atkinson
1.Competent, Consistent two way Guard
2.Wing Defender
3. Rim protector with soft hands and understanding of defensive rotations
4.Stretch Big: Shouldn’t gamble on Melli developing.
5. Vocal a-hole in the locker room with a Winning pedigree
6 Of course a coaching change. Lue, Kidd, or Atkinson
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:07 pm to fightingtigers98
i think we've used up all our draft lotto luck will definitely be at 13. i'm hoping for patrick williams there
ingram- will get the max from us. lets hope he earns it
frank jackson- my guess is we sign him to a team-friendly deal, but honestly this dude is up there with the worst players in the league. definitely would not mind us letting him walk
kenrich- not sure why we wouldnt even try him in the bubble. hoping we are able to keep him on a team-friendly deal. he at least knows how to play defense and is a solid offensive rebounder
josh gray-
cheatham- not quite as much as gray but still
favors- do the right thing, griff. please let the man walk
moore- i guess at the right price i wouldn't hate him being at the end of our bench. i'm guessing some other team is willing to offer him more $ and he walks
jah- tough to say. dont really care. my guess is he ends up signed by a different squad
we desperately need a guard who 1) can get to the line and 2) doesnt turn the ball over at alarming rates
hoping we somehow end up with van vleet. id guess theres a less than 5% of it happening tho
assuming we cant get FVV, im hoping for dragic
ingram- will get the max from us. lets hope he earns it
frank jackson- my guess is we sign him to a team-friendly deal, but honestly this dude is up there with the worst players in the league. definitely would not mind us letting him walk
kenrich- not sure why we wouldnt even try him in the bubble. hoping we are able to keep him on a team-friendly deal. he at least knows how to play defense and is a solid offensive rebounder
josh gray-
cheatham- not quite as much
as gray but still favors- do the right thing, griff. please let the man walk
moore- i guess at the right price i wouldn't hate him being at the end of our bench. i'm guessing some other team is willing to offer him more $ and he walks
jah- tough to say. dont really care. my guess is he ends up signed by a different squad
we desperately need a guard who 1) can get to the line and 2) doesnt turn the ball over at alarming rates
hoping we somehow end up with van vleet. id guess theres a less than 5% of it happening tho
assuming we cant get FVV, im hoping for dragic
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:08 pm to Pelliveli
Offseason after being eliminated honestly may be more exciting than making the playoffs would have been. Getting swept by an average margin of 30 ppg wouldve been painful
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:13 pm to LilWezyAna
This team really makes it hard to care outside of gamedays.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:22 pm to Broski
You sure don’t show it.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:24 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
You sure don’t show it.
Yessuh, Pelicans fan gatekeeper.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:28 pm to Broski
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:29 pm to fightingtigers98
To do list:
-Fire Uncle Al
-Hire Cousin Kenny
-Find players who have heard of this "defense" thing
-Have Zion and BI run 100,000 pick and rolls
-Fire Uncle Al
-Hire Cousin Kenny
-Find players who have heard of this "defense" thing
-Have Zion and BI run 100,000 pick and rolls
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:30 pm to LesGeaux45
quote:
-Have Zion and BI run 100,000 pick and rolls
-also have zion and BI switch diets
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:50 pm to Pelliveli
quote:
Of course a coaching change. Lue, Kidd, or Atkinson
Lol
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:51 pm to LesGeaux45
quote:
Have Zion and BI run 100,000 pick and rolls
Also teach Zion how to defend pick and rolls
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:59 pm to Pelliveli
quote:
4.Stretch Big: Shouldn’t gamble on Melli developing.
Melli made huge strides in what was technically his rookie year in the NBA. He’s got another year on his deal, so we’ll know by sometime next season if he’s worth re-signing. I was impressed with his defense in the bubble and his offense before the shutdown. Hopefully he can combine the two for 2020-21.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:08 pm to fightingtigers98
Offseason wish list
1)FIRE GENTRY.
2)Hire a defensive minded HC.
3)Draft Vassel or Nesmith. Both are the best shooters in the draft, Vassel being the better defender. This move allows us to do #4.
4)Trade JJ to Orlando for Aaron Gordon (Orlando would make it a 3 way trade with someone like Milwaukee to get JJ to a contender). Bucks send their 2020 Pacers pick to Orlando, Pels send 23 Lakers pick to Orlando.
5)Use MLE on Jae Crowder.
6)Let Favors walk. Work out a S&T if possible.
7)Sign Ish Smith.
8)Max Ingram.
9)Offer Hart a 4/48 extension.
10)Bring back KW.
11)Keep working with Ball on his shooting, but especially with his shot selection. If a quality trade materializes, look to move him.
End up with a final roster:
PG: Ball,Smith,NAW
SG: Jrue,Hart,Vassel/Nesmith
SF: Ingram,Crowder,Williams
PF: Zion,Melli
C: Gordon,Hayes
1)FIRE GENTRY.
2)Hire a defensive minded HC.
3)Draft Vassel or Nesmith. Both are the best shooters in the draft, Vassel being the better defender. This move allows us to do #4.
4)Trade JJ to Orlando for Aaron Gordon (Orlando would make it a 3 way trade with someone like Milwaukee to get JJ to a contender). Bucks send their 2020 Pacers pick to Orlando, Pels send 23 Lakers pick to Orlando.
5)Use MLE on Jae Crowder.
6)Let Favors walk. Work out a S&T if possible.
7)Sign Ish Smith.
8)Max Ingram.
9)Offer Hart a 4/48 extension.
10)Bring back KW.
11)Keep working with Ball on his shooting, but especially with his shot selection. If a quality trade materializes, look to move him.
End up with a final roster:
PG: Ball,Smith,NAW
SG: Jrue,Hart,Vassel/Nesmith
SF: Ingram,Crowder,Williams
PF: Zion,Melli
C: Gordon,Hayes
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:15 pm to Soggymoss
In what world is Aaron Gordon a Center?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:18 pm to LSUAce007
If it wasn't obvious, I would like to switch to a small ball 5 lineup..
Much like LAC runs with Harrel.
Much like LAC runs with Harrel.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 10:19 pm
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