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re: Our once great Pelicans Talk is becoming unreadable

Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:07 am to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20874 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:07 am to
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I have ZERO problems with that shot.


We didn't need it. You need a two and you have AD and Boogie. Again, AD isn't a 3pt shooter.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:15 am to
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Again, AD isn't a 3pt shooter.


He’s not a 3pt shooter but he’s a shot maker. It still looked like that play was meant for Miller, who is a shooter, though. I think the idea was to have him take it with time left and a chance to clean it up if he missed. It got busted and him and AD made an adjustment. I just don’t get why people would blame Gentry for a wide open Davis jumper to win the game. Davis can make that shot. It just didn’t go in. shite happens. Kobe was like a 32-33% 3 pt shooter and no one would blink an eye if that guy took a game winning 3.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 11:17 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20874 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:35 am to
I guess I hate the decision more than the play itself. You have 9 seconds and you're at home down 2. Get the two and momentum heading into ot. There's got to be a better play design than hi-lo action with Miller and AD. You could have run horns and got AD to crash to the rim. Idk, just anything to get a shot at the rim
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17713 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:43 am to
This board has turned into dudes who watch 4 games a year making fire Gentry threads because it's trendy.

This organization should really start to explore trading AD because it looks like we gonna be no more than an 7,8,9th seed as long as he's here. I know that's not a popular opinion, but it has been the case, there's no denying that.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:45 am to
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I just don’t get why people would blame Gentry for a wide open Davis jumper to win the game.


I wasn't blaming Gentry, I'm blaming Miller for not taking the shot. AD open for 3 is a good safety valve and something you want to have on that play in case someone had challenged Miller and he needed an outlet. But he had a wide open shot and I would put the odds of him making that at 60% or more vs. 35% for the shot AD took.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 4:22 pm to
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I wasn't blaming Gentry, I'm blaming Miller for not taking the shot. AD open for 3 is a good safety valve and something you want to have on that play in case someone had challenged Miller and he needed an outlet. But he had a wide open shot and I would put the odds of him making that at 60% or more vs. 35% for the shot AD took


I wasn’t referencing you to be fair. Your point makes sense. I’d counter that the 60% shot even if it gets you a 60% chance in OT is about the same odds to win as the 35%. The best money is on the 45% shot and that’s the one they wanted and didn’t get. I don’t love Gentry. I just miss the collective IQ of this board is the only point.

That’s certainly not a jab at you ATL.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 4:41 pm to
The only flaw in your posts is the assumption that Pelicans Talk was "once great"

There are like 4-5 really good posters that prop it up. The rest are morons and the morons come out after a loss (or when the trade deadline approaches, beginning of FA, etc)

The 4-5 should move to an exclusive site where you need to pass a comprehensive test to enter. Then there will be great conversation all the time.

The internet should not be for everyone. And if it is, there need to be exclusive places for the elite minds to get away from the children
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 5:54 pm to
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The only flaw in your posts is the assumption that Pelicans Talk was "once great"


It was the best place to talk Pelicans (well Hornets) and one of the better boards on TD.com. It is neither of those things now.

I mean there’s a fricking Monty Williams thread right on time on the front page. I can’t even fathom why corn has to bust out how bad our D was or you need to mention losses to historically terrible teams to shut these people up...until our next loss.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 5:58 pm to
An elitest board is necessary

Let's let these heathens eat each other alive here and go elsewhere
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63428 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:52 pm to
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Our once great Pelicans Talk is becoming unreadable


Generally speaking,message boards aren't hospitable torational adults with a brain. just the way it is. Personally, I don't believe in democracy when it comes to people expressing their opinions. It allows for too much dumbassery. the internet will be the ruin of us all.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 8:21 pm to
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An elitest board is necessary Let's let these heathens eat each other alive here and go elsewhere


Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
13697 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 4:08 am to
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The 4-5 should move to an exclusive site where you need to pass a comprehensive test to enter. Then there will be great conversation all the time.


It’s called Discord, or start your own forum, or make a subbreddit called “Pels Elite Minds”.
Posted by CheeseTiger251
Member since Jun 2011
361 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:45 am to
The biggest problem is that people see something once, immediately jump to the conclusion that it’s true for all cases, and think that it’s their duty to tell the world.

I am no expert on basketball. As such I read and ask questions because I’m trying to learn more, and I post my opinions rarely because I don’t know all that much.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however, formulating an opinion should take time and research. Furthermore, it should be supported by facts. Otherwise we are all just cavemen yelling at each other.

Finally, an opinion of “fire the coach” is an easy “opinion” to have that provides no serious grounds for discussion. It lays all the burden on someone else to solve the actual problems: what is to be done after he is fired? Who do we replace him with? What impact does that have on the current roster? How does this effect the actual humans on the court? Does that knock us out of the playoffs? Does that matter? Is that just attacking the symptom of the disease and not the disease itself? What if the next coach sucks? Do we just rinse and repeat?

Saying “fire the coach, and that will fix everything” over and over is just lazy.

Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:48 am to
Great post.

You are invited to the elite board
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:39 am to
I don't have a problem with letting Gentry go. I just don't think it will make a difference or that it is justified while we are hovering around .500. If they go on a massive losing streak or the players revolt, something that shows he has lost control, then they should make a move.

If they do let him go, they should only hire an interim or elevate one of the assistants until the off season. I don't want Demps hiring anyone long term or making any decisions until I figure out what his vision is and if it can work long term. Step 1 of that is how he works out the whole Cousins deal..
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63428 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:00 am to
The roster is everything in the NBA, imo.not so much the coaches.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:14 pm to
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LSU fans will turn on him
Why are you acting all high and mighty? You are the most negative person on this fricking website. I remember I was reading through a Pelicans game thread and you were being emo about how bad the Pelicans were playing. And the Pelicans were blowing out the other team. Literally anything goes wrong and you want the coach fired. frick off.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 1:16 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11849 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:57 pm to
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This organization should really start to explore trading AD because it looks like we gonna be no more than an 7,8,9th seed as long as he's here. I know that's not a popular opinion, but it has been the case, there's no denying that.

So what do you hope to accomplish by trading away a young elite player? What are the chances you actually improve on that? Makes absolutely no sense.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17713 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:45 pm to
Maybe try to acquire multiple young players and a veteran who can maybe make the franchise better. Trading Anthony is gonna require getting a haul in return. Players & picks.

I just know , from what I've seen, that having 2 seven footers who rather play out on the perimeter is not working.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34237 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:24 am to
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I’m not seeing some of the guys who would normally bring legit discussions.




Complacency has taken hold. Ownership backed the wrong horse a couple of years ago and it has become too obvious to overlook.
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