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re: Official AD Trade Thread - 6/4 - Griff is fielding offers

Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:45 pm to
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What a hellhole. These people almost universally agree that they can offer less now, possibly just the #4 and one of either Lonzo or Ingram.

That's stupid, it would have to be Ingram, Ball, and 4th. I don't necessarily care that much about them including Kuzma or Hart.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:47 pm to
Kyler kinda backtracks on his comments last week

quote:

Steve Kyler

@stevekylerNBA

No idea — I was told there was interest from more than half the league not just the Lakers/Nets-Knicks and Celtics — so I have no idea who wins out with New Orleans


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:48 pm to
That looks like it deserves its own thread. :)
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103104 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:48 pm to
RealGM isn’t much better.

They are convinced that they are the one with all the cards, too, because they think the Celtics will drop out and that the Knicks’ offer isn’t as good as theirs.

They are also pissing and moaning about the “Laker Tax” on trades, where people try to stick it to them, without admitting that it is their own fricking fault through repeatedly lowballing small market teams under the threat of “we’ll just sign them as a FA if you don’t take this shitty offer.”
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:49 pm to
Interest would be there from most teams.

Assets? That is another matter.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 4:52 pm to
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RealGM isn’t much better.


RealGM is far far worse.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 5:05 pm to
RealGM is OK for other resources besides its forums

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103104 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 5:07 pm to
The general board isn’t horrible.

Not gonna touch on the trades and transactions one, though.
Posted by Vegas Buffet
The Sierra
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

RealGM isn’t much better.

They are convinced that they are the one with all the cards, too, because they think the Celtics will drop out and that the Knicks’ offer isn’t as good as theirs.

They are also pissing and moaning about the “Laker Tax” on trades, where people try to stick it to them, without admitting that it is their own fricking fault through repeatedly lowballing small market teams under the threat of “we’ll just sign them as a FA if you don’t take this shitty offer.”


Laker fans substantially overrate their prospects based upon draft position and stat padding in failed seasons. They were never in this, and still aren't.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 5:45 pm to
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Laker fans substantially overrate their prospects...


This is true. Also true of you Celtics fans.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
3474 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:31 pm to
we had our chance at the deadline....

now to show us who’s boss, they will give us less and we are going to take it and like it....
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:46 pm to
I'm not he biggest Lakers trade fan but they wouldn't have the 4th pick to trade if they traded at the deadline
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by Vegas Buffet
The Sierra
Member since Feb 2019
169 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

This is true. Also true of you Celtics fans.


Not at all. At least not most of us. 15-20 years of Belichick and Ainge has us decidedly unsentimental about slobs. Some of you might be new at this, but we ain't. Tatum, Smart, and picks is a fricking godsend for you guys considering that AD is demanding out with a year left on his deal with and trying to steer himself to the Lakers.

There is a very big part of me that hopes we pull out and that know-nothings like you get educated on this in short order.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:24 pm to
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There is a very big part of me that hopes we pull out and that know-nothings like you get educated on this in short order.


If Ainge trades for AD he has to have a series of other moves in mind, regardless of what Kyrie does. That’s why I don’t think he’ll give the Pels everything, in case he needs to make other moves.
Posted by Vegas Buffet
The Sierra
Member since Feb 2019
169 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 12:16 am to
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If Ainge trades for AD he has to have a series of other moves in mind, regardless of what Kyrie does. That’s why I don’t think he’ll give the Pels everything, in case he needs to make other moves.


I don't think you are wrong. Not elaborating rn tho. Apologies.
Posted by RUFshreve
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:23 am to
I think Ainge has had his eyes and mind set on AD for too long now. He knows he has the best assets to acquire him and he also knows that trading for AD is his ONLY hope of convincing Kyrie to re-sign with them. I still expect to be offered Tatum/Smart/#14/Memphis pick. And we will take it and party hard. For those people saying they wont include Tatum, I think you're underestimatimg the balls on Ainge. He knows that they're not even in the conversation without offering up Tatum, and these reports say that Boston is still in and wanting to work out a trade. It's just a matter of time.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46272 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:10 pm to
Mac reporting on the twitter that the Knicks are calling around the league for options to swap some young players and maybe a pick for something the pels like better. I still think that along with #3 they have a strong case for the trade table in that Davis is likely to re sign there. But I agree that their current offer is too much youth unless the pels have interest in a rebuild around zion, #3 and Mitchell/Knox

in which case you have to trade jrue

griffin said from the beginning he wants a budding star, good potential young players and picks. There’s a gap at the top of the current Knicks package

and surely he’s telling the Knicks who he’d like to see them try to get first
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103104 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:26 pm to
Wouldn’t be surprised if we did give them a shopping list.

Supposedly Dell and Ferry gave Magic a shopping list of potential talents like Beal and Jokic we were interested in and said “Find me someone like this.”
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46272 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:30 pm to
right but in this case it would be lower tier guys like maybe saric or similar.
a guy like that plus #3 plus Mitchell and the first DAL pick would be interesting
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