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re: Oden has narrowed down his choices to Pelicans, Heat

Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:18 pm to
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I think he could still be useful even if that was his ceiling. We need a matchup center and Oden could be a wealthy man's Aaron Gray. Not playing back to backs and having minutes limits shouldn't be a problem for the most part.



So, he's a matchup center that won't be available for all possible matchups. I just think that really kind of limits his value.
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:19 pm to
Just because he's been riddled by injuries doesn't mean he always will be. Nor does it mean he doesn't have any upside left.

Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:22 pm to
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I just think that really kind of limits his value.


Of course it does. His potential, when healthy, raises his value to $3 million.
This post was edited on 7/29/13 at 12:24 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:22 pm to
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So, he's a matchup center that won't be available for all possible matchups. I just think that really kind of limits his value


To be fair: There's not THAT many big frontcourts these days:

Memphis
Indy
Bulls
Utah?
Detroit
Dwight(lol)

Half of those are in the east
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:24 pm to
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Just because he's been riddled by injuries doesn't mean he always will be


That's like saying just because 1+1 has always equaled 2, doesn't mean it has to always equal 2.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:28 pm to
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he's a matchup center that won't be available for all possible matchups.


Being a matchup center implies he's only needed for certain matchups. Maybe you have to pick which game he plays if Houston and Memphis are back to back, but for the most part I think you could survive by giving his minutes to Stiemsma.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:36 pm to
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for the most part I think you could survive by giving his minutes to Stiemsma.


Then why is he needed? Seems more and more like a really expensive lottery ticket.

I know that you aren't in the Oden or Bust camp, so the question is more rhetorical for you.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Then why is he needed? Seems more and more like a really expensive lottery ticket.


Because when you're playing center by committee the the center position is obviously improved by having better committee members available.
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:40 pm to
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That's like saying just because 1+1 has always equaled 2, doesn't mean it has to always equal 2.


No, it's exactly the opposite of saying that.

Because 1 + 1 will always equal 2 for the entirety of world history.

There is absolutely a chance that Greg Oden gets back to being a solid NBA role player and never experiences a serious injury again.

The odds of that may not be strong, but there is a chance.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:56 pm to
Jester is my least favorite poster and it's not just because of his thoughts in this thread.
Posted by drake20
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:58 pm to
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That's like saying just because 1+1 has always equaled 2, doesn't mean it has to always equal 2.



it's not like that at all
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:00 pm to
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Then why is he needed? Seems more and more like a really expensive lottery ticket.

I don't know about you, but saying that we "could survive" doesn't really sound ideal to me
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:05 pm to
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Because when you're playing center by committee the the center position is obviously improved by having better committee members available.


Keyword there.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:06 pm to
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I don't know about you, but saying that we "could survive" doesn't really sound ideal to me


Neither does "we only wasted $3,000,000."
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:06 pm to
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Jester


Why is your vag bleeding? Seriously, you are a hair away from going full meltdown, it seems.


:inb4 ROTFL emoticon:






Getting this thread back on track (and this may have been mentioned through all the bullshite), Oden apparently wants to go to a team with the least amount of pressure.

Welcome, Greg.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:08 pm to
For 1 year? Who else are we doing to spend it on?

Isn't the deal supposed to give us a team option for the 2nd year?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:09 pm to
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saying that we "could survive" doesn't really sound ideal to me


Ideal and best available options are 2 different things. If I told you Toronto was giving us Aaron Gray but because of our current depth he'd only play in 55 games averaging 10-15 mpg, would you really say no?

If Oden can't play at all you obviously get nothing, but if he can play some, I don't think a part time mathchup center for $2.65 million is a bad use of that cap space.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:11 pm to
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Getting this thread back on track (and this may have been mentioned through all the bullshite), Oden apparently wants to go to a team with the least amount of pressure.

Welcome, Greg.


Is this a new revelation or a repeating of the same stories from last week? If it's new Tim Hardaway sure didn't help by saying signing Oden would lead to a 3rd title for the Heat.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78904 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:13 pm to
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Is this a new revelation or a repeating of the same stories from last week? If it's new Tim Hardaway sure didn't help by saying signing Oden would lead to a 3rd title for the Heat.


I caught the end of First Take when they said this.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:14 pm to
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