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Now that the season is over..
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:11 pm
‘Twas a very frustrating but very good season sons! Really would have liked to see where we ended up if we hadn’t incurred the NAW and Hart injuries. Obviously, I wasn’t expecting a “playoff run”, but could we have given a 3 or 4 seed a good series? Couple of high level observations we learned in the 2020-2021 season:
Positives
-Zions development was PHENOMENAL. He showed us he’s more than just a bully, dude has finesse, vision, quickness, and, maybe most importantly showed us his free throw percentage is drastically improving.
-I’m typically not one for morale victories, but this young team was in ALOT of close games this year against much better teams. It’s good to know that this core is already competing on the same level as the top of the NBA
-Lonzo did in fact retool his shot this off-season and it worked. His 3 ball is more than viable and will be a weapon in the future (if kept).
-Development of younger players is really evident. NAW, Jax, Naji, and JHart all showed a lot of promise and improvement throughout the year. NAW dropped 40 (almost? Vs LAC), Jax improved tremendously after being benched, JHart is the emotional leader on this team, and Naji showed enough 3/D type potential to get himself a contract.
Negatives:
-Elephant in the room... I think if we’re all being honest with ourselves, BI really left a lot to be desired this year. 2021-22 season is really going to be a huge year for him to decide if he’s going to be a superstar or if he’s going to be a 3rd scoring option. The guy obviously has talent and as a 23 year old, he can still improve a ton. I don’t want to ship him but we need to see him work more in sync with Zion on the court.
-Stan is an absolute arse clown and time after time, we saw late game collapses, turnovers after timeouts, terrible rotations, laughable call challenges, and the very worst, a bottom tier defense. If that’s his specialty, he sure as shite doesn’t know what he’s doing anymore.
-Steven really doesn’t fit with this team. I love him. I love his hustle. He was on the offensive glass all year long. But him being on the court really kills the flow of the offense.
I must say it was a very entertaining season. Sometimes not entertaining in the best of ways (Indiana, Portland, Charlotte, New York) but damn my eyes were glued to the TV.
Big shoutout to my boy Joel and a nice debut season for AD. They play well off of each other.
Flap on, Sons.
Positives
-Zions development was PHENOMENAL. He showed us he’s more than just a bully, dude has finesse, vision, quickness, and, maybe most importantly showed us his free throw percentage is drastically improving.
-I’m typically not one for morale victories, but this young team was in ALOT of close games this year against much better teams. It’s good to know that this core is already competing on the same level as the top of the NBA
-Lonzo did in fact retool his shot this off-season and it worked. His 3 ball is more than viable and will be a weapon in the future (if kept).
-Development of younger players is really evident. NAW, Jax, Naji, and JHart all showed a lot of promise and improvement throughout the year. NAW dropped 40 (almost? Vs LAC), Jax improved tremendously after being benched, JHart is the emotional leader on this team, and Naji showed enough 3/D type potential to get himself a contract.
Negatives:
-Elephant in the room... I think if we’re all being honest with ourselves, BI really left a lot to be desired this year. 2021-22 season is really going to be a huge year for him to decide if he’s going to be a superstar or if he’s going to be a 3rd scoring option. The guy obviously has talent and as a 23 year old, he can still improve a ton. I don’t want to ship him but we need to see him work more in sync with Zion on the court.
-Stan is an absolute arse clown and time after time, we saw late game collapses, turnovers after timeouts, terrible rotations, laughable call challenges, and the very worst, a bottom tier defense. If that’s his specialty, he sure as shite doesn’t know what he’s doing anymore.
-Steven really doesn’t fit with this team. I love him. I love his hustle. He was on the offensive glass all year long. But him being on the court really kills the flow of the offense.
I must say it was a very entertaining season. Sometimes not entertaining in the best of ways (Indiana, Portland, Charlotte, New York) but damn my eyes were glued to the TV.
Big shoutout to my boy Joel and a nice debut season for AD. They play well off of each other.
Flap on, Sons.
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:17 pm to SouthMSReb
How BI fits in with Zion and the rest of the roster moving forward is THE most important issue for this team moving forward. And I’m not saying he needs to go, we just need to figure out how to get the most out of both players while they are on the floor together. Filling out the rest of the roster comes in secondary to that IMO.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:21 pm to oncealurker
I like BI but if we had a shot at siakam I’d send BI to the raptors, think siakam brings scoring and defense. I also would let lonzo walk before I pay him 20 per
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:22 pm to SouthMSReb
quote:
Stan is an absolute arse clown and time after time, we saw late game collapses, turnovers after timeouts, terrible rotations, laughable call challenges, and the very worst, a bottom tier defense. If that’s his specialty, he sure as shite doesn’t know what he’s doing anymore.
I was with you until this. This team is a top 5 in ATO scoring. We also have shown when focused and playing like they WANT to play defense, they have been borderline elite on that end of the floor also.
The problem with defense, especially nowadays with all the social media and all the offensive plays getting the highlights, is that's all the young guys seem to care about. They want to win, but they don't want to do the little things it takes to win, like play hard on defense night in and night out.
As a coach, it's hard to get guys to buy in to that. Thibs was able to do it in New York because his team is loaded with a bunch of castoffs that know that if they don't do the little things their career maybe over.
It will come here, the guys just need to realize there's more to winning than scoring.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:25 pm to SouthMSReb
quote:
debut season for AD.
Um...
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:33 pm to SouthMSReb
If the rumors were true, trading for brogdon should be option #1 for this team.
He fits as the 3rd piece (similar to what he did for Milwaukee) for our two young stars. Find a way to get ball + bledsoe out to get the #s to work and we have the ammo to do it.
He fits as the 3rd piece (similar to what he did for Milwaukee) for our two young stars. Find a way to get ball + bledsoe out to get the #s to work and we have the ammo to do it.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:58 pm to SouthMSReb
The defense actually improved after the all star game. SVG is way better coach than Gentry though. Zion and Ingram seems to respect him and Zion always raves about how he actually feels like he is being coached. SVG was garbage in the beginning though but at the end has been improving. I give him another year and see what heads from there.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:45 am to Louisianabound88
Breh if we are trading Ingram for Pascal, they better be sending us OG and their first too.
Pascal is 4 years older than Ingram and has not had a great season, although he has had some better performances recently.
Pascal is 4 years older than Ingram and has not had a great season, although he has had some better performances recently.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 4:50 am
Posted on 5/8/21 at 6:50 am to htran90
I really wanted that tenth spot just to get Zion some playoff experience if nothing else. I’m gonna be so pissed if we don’t have some major turnover. Personally I think Ball, Bledsoe and Adams needs to go to start and BI if we can get another “ star”
Posted on 5/8/21 at 7:12 am to BowDownToLSU
As long as the off-season starts with unloading BI to another team, firing Stan and hiring Ham and doing a S/T with Lonzo...I'm good. It's Zions team now.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:04 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Breh if we are trading Ingram for Pascal, they better be sending us OG and their first too. Pascal is 4 years older than Ingram
pels talk Chris Paul is 12 years older than lonzo, would that matter if it brings wins? I guess losing with younger players is better than winning with older ones.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:20 am to Louisianabound88
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I like BI but if we had a shot at siakam I’d send BI to the raptors, think siakam brings scoring and defense.
You've said this in other threads. I can't imagine why you think that Siakam would be a good fit with Zion. Honestly, if I were trying to think of a high-profile player who would be a worse fit, I'm not sure that I could come up with one. I think that there's way too much overlap in the things that they do.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:28 am to Louisianabound88
I’m probably one of the bigger Ingram critics on here, but it’s not like Pascal is piling up wins in Toronto this year and if you polled their fans, they would happily move him for a return that brings back less than Ingram.
Ingram for Pascal straight up aint the move baw. Also, Griff isn’t going to trade him this offseason or even next year anyway. Griff loves Ingram. It would probably take a godfather type offer for him to even consider trading BI prior to the 2022 offseason.
Ingram for Pascal straight up aint the move baw. Also, Griff isn’t going to trade him this offseason or even next year anyway. Griff loves Ingram. It would probably take a godfather type offer for him to even consider trading BI prior to the 2022 offseason.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:46 am to Soggymoss
quote:
The problem with defense, especially nowadays with all the social media and all the offensive plays getting the highlights, is that's all the young guys seem to care about. They want to win, but they don't want to do the little things it takes to win, like play hard on defense night in and night out.
In our last 15 games, we've actually had the NBA's #1 defense. People don't want to recognize the improvement that's taken place. They don't want to admit what a tremendous drag Redick was on the defense earlier in the season, as though it was SVG's fault that our 6th man was washed up and one of the worst defenders in the league. They don't want to admit the huge defensive improvement throughout the season from Jaxson, NAW, Zion, and Naji.
No, it's that SVG sucks and forgot how to coach defense. smh
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:47 am to 3PieceSpicy
the issue for me is ingram is not comfortable with game on the line .
siakim is a better defender and seems to enjoy playing.
hes mature.
if a key objective is to make zion happy by making playoffs next year siakim gives a better chance.
id swap for siakim and toss in 2 2nds.
siakim is a better defender and seems to enjoy playing.
hes mature.
if a key objective is to make zion happy by making playoffs next year siakim gives a better chance.
id swap for siakim and toss in 2 2nds.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:56 am to CelticDog
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hes mature.
so are you aware of his attitude problems he's had this year, and the spats he's had with his head coach, causing him to get suspended more than once this year?
Sounds real mature.
I also can't think of a worst big name player to fit with Zion's game than Siakam.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:01 am to GOP_Tiger
And exactly why I said, when they actually commit to playing it they are borderline elite defensively.
Which is why I'm not pinning everything on Stan.
The improvement shows that he maybe getting through to them though.
Which is why I'm not pinning everything on Stan.
The improvement shows that he maybe getting through to them though.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 9:03 am
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:04 am to CelticDog
Then you'd be a horrible gm. Ingram has faults, but he's more valuable than siakam.
Some of yal just look at numbers and say aha! Without realizing fit and how they play on the court.
He's not a great shooter and plays a similar role to zion. That would make us worse and that much harder for zion, not easier.
Some of yal just look at numbers and say aha! Without realizing fit and how they play on the court.
He's not a great shooter and plays a similar role to zion. That would make us worse and that much harder for zion, not easier.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:45 am to htran90
Look at Siakam stats at 23 and I look at Ingram stats at 23. Ingram fits in the timeline with Zion. Siakam is in his prime and Ingram is not yet.
The patience of you guys and judging guys so early in their careers are staggering. Especially guys who have been improving and has been nothing but a good team mate/player in the organization.
The patience of you guys and judging guys so early in their careers are staggering. Especially guys who have been improving and has been nothing but a good team mate/player in the organization.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 12:44 pm to SouthMSReb
Now that it's over:
1.)Try to get to the 7th pick and increase odds of Top4. There are 4-6 franchise changers this draft & if we get Suggs, Cade or Mitchell then the Lonzo decision is easy.
2.)Shop the upcoming Laker picks now that teams see how flawed & short term they're built. Target OG, SGA, Jaylen, Beal.
3.)Extend Hart at a reasonable price. Hart, NAW, Naji, James would give aggession to both units. That's a great 4th 5th 6th 7th men for a team that has struggled with effort.
1.)Try to get to the 7th pick and increase odds of Top4. There are 4-6 franchise changers this draft & if we get Suggs, Cade or Mitchell then the Lonzo decision is easy.
2.)Shop the upcoming Laker picks now that teams see how flawed & short term they're built. Target OG, SGA, Jaylen, Beal.
3.)Extend Hart at a reasonable price. Hart, NAW, Naji, James would give aggession to both units. That's a great 4th 5th 6th 7th men for a team that has struggled with effort.
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