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re: Jrue for the Bulls or Suns first pick?

Posted on 4/22/19 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 4:50 pm to
Personally I think Phx might be the only team of the 3 worst teams that would be most willing to give up their second overall pick for Jrue if they land there. That team desperately needs some veteran leadership (even if Jrue isn’t the most vocal of leaders) and adding another rookie to the roster won’t do much for them imo
Posted by Crewz
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 4:57 pm to
I think Phoenix would too. But I think you'd have to give something back if its the 2nd pick. Not if its 3 or 4 though. Something like 2 and Josh Jackson for Jrue and #7. Or 2 and taking Feliciano's contract for Jrue and a future lotto protected 1st.
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:00 pm to
Jesus, that’s a mix of the good-great and the godawful.

Thomas Robinson is a name that gives me nightmares since he was who we probably end up with if the balls don’t fall right for us, as I doubt our front office would have gone with Lillard with a supposed top talent in the board.

Robinson and Austin Rivers? :puke:

Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:19 pm to
Hasn’t Jackson been terrible? It would cost Holiday to move up 5 spots in the draft? That’s insane
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:22 pm to
The 4th and 7th picks couldn't get you the 2nd pick in this draft. So, think of it this way -- Jrue would be worth more than the 4th pick in this draft.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:31 pm to
If they couldn’t get the PROSPECT they want for Jrue straight up they wouldn’t do it. He’s a 20ppg defensive stalwart who is now the franchise player of the organization. They aren’t trading 3+ years of Jrue and the #7 for a prospect who has plenty of flaws in his game and another who couldn’t start on one of the worst teams in the nba.
Posted by BayouRat15
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:54 pm to
As another poster stated....This is Jrue Primetime to be traded? Now or never?
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:55 pm to
Maybe I am wrong but I do not see him as the alpha dog leader? Maybe that is just me and the way he is underrated by the media.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:12 pm to
He’s definitely a leader to the team. AD literally used him as a mouthpiece after the request. Everyone on that team and organization respects him
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:19 pm to
Take it for what it's worth, but the Suns beat writers are proposing if the pick is between 3-6 in that neighborhood, pairing it with tj warren and a top 2-3 protected next year as fair value for Jrue. They have a glut of 3's and think they should trade off Warren who is on a good contract b/c they want to resign Oubre. Think his potential is very high. They have no use for Barrett if they land #3. Not sure if anyone would take that trade.

On a side note, would love to get Oubre, hometown kid with lots of potential to finally fill that 3 spot for us. He's restricted and would like to take that gamble if Tatum doesn't end up on our team.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 6:21 pm
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:07 pm to
Oubre hasn’t been in the best situations for his career, but he’s got a little dirt on him from his Wizards time.

Everyone can get better, but I’m not sure hometowns are best for a lot of NBA players. Lots of distractions from friends and family for 41 games, as opposed to a few trips back a season.

Payton is probably an exception to that line of thinking, and he had an up and down year.
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:12 pm to
Im starting to move to the side of hoping we trade with Boston. I was anti Boston trade because I didnt think we had a chance to land to star in the trade and I still feel that way. But I trust Tatum to be a high IQ NBA player who will make right decisions down the stretch. I feel that way about Jrue also. i Trust Marcus Smart to compete every night. Superstar doesnt translate to winning basketball always. Check out Westbrick and George.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:23 pm to
The question is, are you okay with being Atlanta or Denver?

Quality playoff team with no superstar. Because that's what we would be.

Every now and then you'd strike gold (Detroit, Dallas) and possibly win it all.
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:28 pm to
Yes Im fine making playoffs every year. I really feel a team thats play hard every night in NBA will win 35 games a year strictly on playing hard. Ive heard Tatum is a great kid. I could pull for him and Jrue
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:32 pm to
I actually think Denver will compete for a title in next five years.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30080 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Yes Im fine making playoffs every year. I really feel a team thats play hard every night in NBA will win 35 games a year strictly on playing hard. Ive heard Tatum is a great kid. I could pull for him and Jrue


I actually agree with your points as well.

It's a given majority of the time, big markets tend to win. That's the reality and I've accepted it.

But being an annual playoff team is still fun, at that point I'd like to be more but I know it's hard to get there.

By all accounts Tatum seems to be all business, his dad saying things about he'd be okay with being traded tells me he's okay with moving on from Boston as well (and Kyrie's shadow).

I also realize his ceiling is limited, and likely resulting in a 20/7/3 guy with 45/39/85 shooting splits... Pretty exciting to think of you can find a good big and watch them grow together.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:07 pm to
If we land the second pick and get Ja. Ja, Jrue, and Jayson would be a fun trio to waych
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Vegas Buffet
The Sierra
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

By all accounts Tatum seems to be all business, his dad saying things about he'd be okay with being traded tells me he's okay with moving on from Boston as well (and Kyrie's shadow).

I also realize his ceiling is limited, and likely resulting in a 20/7/3 guy with 45/39/85 shooting splits... Pretty exciting to think of you can find a good big and watch them grow together.


He's not against being traded to NO, but would prefer to stay in Boston. While no one is projecting him as a future MVP, definitely wouldn't use the term "limited" for his ceiling. Projecting him as a 20ppg scorer is also definitely misinformed. He could do that now if he weren't being underutilized on a team with too many rotation players on it. Kid is a born scorer.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30080 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:03 am to
quote:

He's not against being traded to NO, but would prefer to stay in Boston. While no one is projecting him as a future MVP, definitely wouldn't use the term "limited" for his ceiling. Projecting him as a 20ppg scorer is also definitely misinformed. He could do that now if he weren't being underutilized on a team with too many rotation players on it. Kid is a born scorer.


I mean Boston is a proven place to win, I wouldn't want to move from there as well but it honestly seems he's okay with it. Wouldn't throw a fit. A professional in that sense.

I mean we're talking about a guy who's Danny granger/Rudy gay. He can jack up the 20ppg right now, but I guarantee it'd be less efficient than he is right now. That matters more to team success.
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 7:46 am to
Yes I see him as a 20 ppg guy who will shoot at 46-47% from the field and 37-38% from three. Average defender but will try. Good thing about playing with Jrue and Smart is they will take on the others teams better players and let him focus on scoring.
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