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re: Frank Jackson To The Thunder
nobody knows who ariza plays for now.
not even ariza


Pelefraan 1
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re: Frank Jackson To The Thunder
I must have missed Ariza to OKC. He got traded 73 times.


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bonethug0180
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Arizona breaks record

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After a whirlwind week for Trevor Ariza that included being a part of four different teams, the veteran forward has set a record.

His trade to the Oklahoma City Thunder was the 10th time he has been dealt in his career, which sets an NBA record, according to Clutch Points.

Three of those have come over the last week. Ariza was traded from the Portland Trail Blazers to the Houston Rockets on Monday, shipped to the Detroit Pistons on Wednesday and traded to the Thunder as part of a three-team deal on Saturday.

Here are the trades throughout his career:

February 2006: Traded from New York Knicks to Orlando Magic

November 2007: Traded from Magic to Los Angeles Lakers

August 2010: Traded from the Houston Rockets to the New Orleans Hornets

June 2012: Traded from the Hornets to the Washington Wizards

July 2014: Traded from the Wizards to the Rockets

December 2018: Traded from the Phoenix Suns to the Wizards

January 2020: Traded from the Sacramento Kings to the Portland Trail Blazers

November 2020 (3): Traded from the Trail Blazers to the Rockets to the Pistons to the Thunder

That’s 10 trades accounting for 11 total teams.




If he keeps this rate up he could have been a part of all 30 teams before he's done.

If he actually plays for the Thunder, he will have played for 10 teams. The only team he wouldn't have played for would be the Pistons.

The current record for most franchises played for is 12, tied between Chucky Brown, Jim Jackson, Tony Massenburg, and Joe Smith, all players who began their careers in the 90s.

30 players, currently including Ariza, have played for 9 teams, while only 14 have played for 10-12, which includes active players Ish Smith (11) and Anthony Tolliver (10).
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Chalkywhite84
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re: Frank Jackson To The Thunder
Jim Jackson I knew

Didnt realize joe smith played on 12 teams


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Chalkywhite84
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re: Frank Jackson To The Thunder
Is there a reason ariza was traded 4 times?


bonethug0180
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re: Frank Jackson To The Thunder
Pretty good player on a decent contract, but not good enough that you feel you need to keep him.

Kind of like cheetos in that most people like them but likely aren't most people's favorite, so if someone has a bag of chips you like more you'd try to trade them even if you'd still be okay keeping them.


OrganizedChaos
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They can just write checks to the players they already have right?


Yea the players get a check for the difference between the salary floor and team payroll. Not a penalty at all really.


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OrganizedChaos
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Even though they're "over the cap" they still have to get to the salary floor, right? Or did they find a loop hole for ultra low payroll in a pandemic season?


I'm pretty sure they still need to get to the salary floor even tho they are operating as an over the cap team. Haven't heard anything about a covid exception. I could see a special exception happening tho with all the lost revenue.


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Pelefraan 1
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They can't be over the salary cap and under the salary floor at the same time, those things are mutually exclusive.

They'll use their trade exceptions to get under the floor, plus waiving their non guaranteed guys
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OrganizedChaos
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They can't be over the salary cap and under the salary floor at the same time


I think you can be bc that's what Bobby Marks tweet is saying. Even with the small payroll their payroll+all their exceptions puts them over the cap.

They could use their trade exceptions to get to salary floor or they could renounce all their exceptions including their trade exceptions putting them under the cap and sign free agents or trade for someone and get to the salary floor that way.


Pelefraan 1
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I think you can be bc that's what Bobby Marks tweet is saying. Even with the small payroll their payroll+all their exceptions puts them over the cap.

They could use their trade exceptions to get to salary floor or they could renounce all their exceptions including their trade exceptions putting them under the cap and sign free agents or trade for someone and get to the salary floor that way.


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Pelefraan 1
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So OKC are operating as an over the cap team because the TPEs count towards the cap, even though actual salary is below the floor

Would think this to be a pretty rare situation. Maybe when Philly sold everyone off it was similar
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Chalkywhite84
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No, I get that.

My question was more towards his contract.
Does he have the perfect amount.
There is a reason he was traded 4 times


Pelefraan 1
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What do you mean perfect amount, lol


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OrganizedChaos
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Def rare. Lowest payroll in the league but technically over the cap, I don't know if thats ever happened before.


Philly had low payroll but I don't remember them having the giant trade exceptions.


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OrganizedChaos
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Does he have the perfect amount.


He makes solid starter/good 6th man money so kinda yea. It's also an expiring which is key.

Covington and him make the same money and Cov is better so blazers traded for him from the rockets. I think the rockets wanted to dump his salary bc they're cheap so they traded him and 1st to the Pistons.

The Pistons wanted a better guard so they traded him in a deal for delon wright. He's an ok player and his salary works for a lot of deals.
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