re: First take, klay and draymond for AD

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"Better career" is a subjective measure. For your next act, tell us how Javale McGee has had a better career than AD

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I'm not falling for the false equivalencies. I don't need to bring up other examples or players. The two are in direct opposition and standing to not have to resort to mental gymnastics to make it work. If you went and found Davis right now, at this second. He would tell you that Green has had a better career than him so far and if he could switch places, he would. Almost any player in the NBA would, Green has lived a charmed existence in one of the best places to ever play. The only thing that is seriously in question, is what role or how much impact has Green personally had. I'm guessing most of you think he's just some lucky a'hole that was in the right place at the right time. I just think more of him and think he has a lot more to do with their success.

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Funny you want to dismiss any actual measurable statistic that says Draymond Green isnt in AD's atmosphere as a player

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I have never once said that Green is a better player than Davis. I have attacked the notion that Davis is some uber god player and the Green is some scrub. Plus given the team dynamics and roles, believe that Green is a much better fit for many teams and that many would prefer to have him over Davis. Especially given the cost, Davis's sensitive nature and restricting him within a system. If I had to choose, give me Green.

The OP is Thompson and Green for Davis. The best 3D wing in the league and a top 5 frontcourt player for Davis. The only thing that would make me hesitate is the contract situations of each. Otherwise that would be a huge come up for the Pelicans IMO. That is how this started.

I do think the Pelicans would be better with Green. He is not a super star, but fills a ton of needs plus dramatically cheaper. He is a leader and would elevate some of the lesser players. He would not put up Davis's numbers. But would be an all star still with about 20/10/6, plus we would be a mid level playoff team (stepup from the back end like we are now). Just my opinion.

I see him as a much better version of Anthony Mason. When Mason got booted from the Knicks, everybody thought he'd just vanish. But he went to the Hornets and had a monster season next to Rice. I think Green would have the same kind of success..

Draymond would never be THE GUY on a team. Even if he played that role on a bad team he isn’t getting 20 PPG. He doesn’t have that kind of offensive game

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With Thompson and Holiday here, would he have to be the guy?

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He'd still have to be a pretty big guy, moreso compared to what he's asked to do now and even more than the '15-16 warriors.

Jrue is not going to play that 30PPG role that Curry did that year, but Klay could likely play a slightly larger role than before. Klay isn't very good at creating his own shot and Jrue is turnover prone when he's asked to handle the ball more as well. He's going to need to.

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Let's go back to when he was the 3rd option, before they picked up Durant. You know the one where they won 73 games, Green started 81 games and he averaged 14/9.5/7.4. If you look at that season, you'll see he scored 14 ppg on 10.1 shots. That is pretty efficient. Of the 23 guys that scored 20 ppg this past season, only one (Towns) took under 15 shots per game. So give him 5-6 shots more per game, as the primary scorer, I'm pretty positive he would get to 20 ppg..

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Yes, that is also the most amazing scoring year of his career along with a GOAT season. A lot of it is in part to his 3pt shooting, career high in FGA at the rim/getting fouled due to the spacing and even better ball movement than now. That year which was a career high 38.8%. 5 other years he didn't even reach 34%, the last 2 he's only hit 30%. I'm more inclined to believe he's a 33% 3PT shooter than 38% at this point.

The year before? 11.7 points on 9.7 attempts.
The 2 years with Durant? 10.2 points on 8.6 attempts and 11.0 points on 8.8 attempts.

A player is likely to be less efficient as their attempts go up or become the main guy. For example, see Harrison Barnes: While his PPG has gone up, his efficiency dropped. That will likely happen to Green as well.

For him to be a 20PPG scorer, he's more likely to average 44/34/70 shooting (career avg) than he is to have those career highs in shooting efficiency (49/39/70)

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I just skimmed this but to there is not one single team in the NBA that would take Green over Davis

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Nah dude, you're wrong.

Get educated,

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There are millions of people that would pick Green and his skills over Davis. The fact that you can't acknowledge that is just sad and shows how shaded your sports views are..

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