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Does this season matter for Anthony Davis timeline?

Posted on 1/13/19 at 11:04 am
Posted by PelicanFever
Member since Jun 2017
135 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 11:04 am
A playoff berth is becoming more and more of a long shot this season with each passing loss. However, does the front office not consider this season’s success tied to wins and losses but instead in taking steps in trying to retain Davis long term? Now obviously, winning more games this season would help in retaining Davis.

With that said, I don’t believe the Pelicans become sellers even if losses continue to pile up. Do they still try to acquire the best talent that they can acquire to try to sell Davis on a long term core and go into next season as last ditch attempt? If the front office plans on next season being the last season to convince Davis that the team is built for long term success, then I don’t envision the Pelicans becoming sellers no matter what this season. They traded for Cousins two years ago in a season that had little playoff hopes at the time. Do the Pels aim to strike again even though playoff hopes are dwindling?



Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 11:13 am to
I don't think we become sellers unless AD tells the team he's gone regardless.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 11:28 am to
You can argue that losing a bunch here gives you a better shot at landing Beal. And being buyers in general
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 12:00 pm to
Is this Beal thing even a possible thing crewz? Just feels like a pipe dream. I'm starting to even wonder whats the point of trading our first round pick for a Barnes or Porter type guy. How much does that help? Ad we feel like we have got you what you need to make conference finals in the future. Barnes? Like a said tough being a Gm in a small market in the Nba. I feel for guys like Demps trying to please fan bases.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 12:09 pm to
You would have to ask the Washington GM to get an answer to your question. Pels and other teams are trying to get him. So, does that fit your definition of "possible"... If not, and you want more clarity, you have to text the Wash GM
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 12:36 pm to
if they don't get him to sign the DPE this summer, they can hold onto him and hope for the best in 19/20. but that's fairly crazy.

unless they pull off something akin to the Cousins trade (land a top 15 player), that 19/20 team is DOA and just playing out the string until Davis is traded or walks

now, there's no reason for them to be sellers until this summer. then they will know where Davis stands on the DPE and they will know how the lottery shakes out
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 12:52 pm to
Kings were openly shopping Cousins that season. Only names this year I have heard are possibly Beal and maybe Klove. I like the idea of trading Randle and a first for Love and Hood but that doesnt seem to popular on here. I think Love is different than Niko in the fact you can run offense through Love if Davis is on bench or out for a game. Niko doesnt seem like a guy that you can just dump it to and let him go to work.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:02 pm to
The question is: Will the offers in Feb of 2020 be that much worse than the Summer of 2019?

Because if you don't think they will be, you take your chance and see if you can be great the first few months.

I think the biggest advantage to agreeing to a trade of AD this summer is that you can tell the other team which player(s) to choose in the draft if they are giving you picks. If the Celtics take guys you don't like in June, but you have to take them in Feb, its not as ideal
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:12 pm to
Man carrying Davis into the deadline is so scary. If he got hurt...man...
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:39 pm to
Him getting hurt wouldn't be the worry. Lack of bidders would be the worry. What do you do is Philly has figured out the Embiid/Simmons pairing and won't deal Ben, and the Lakers have moved on and got someone else, and neither Chicago or NY believes they can re-sign him? Now, Boston has the leverage.

I think the Pels only take this route if they land a Beal or a Griffin, etc. Or if they do something like go 28-5 down the stretch this year. Otherwise, yes, it is too risky.
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:54 pm to
I think Lakers want to try their luck and get Kawhi this summer in free agency and keep all those young players. That would be ideal situation for them and trading for AD would be second option. I been hearing Ben for Ad swap but id rather Tatum, two first and Smart or Brown anyday.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63431 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Or if they do something like go 28-5 down the stretch this year


that'll happen.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:30 am to
I think the offers will be roughly the same, honestly. For me, holding onto Davis when everyone knows he's out (assuming he doesn't sign the DPE) just torpedos your own season on the court and in the stands.

Your point about being stuck with someone else's drafted players is a good one though.

Post lottery night is when things should really heat up. They probably have the most options available leading up to and after the draft.

If we want to get all processy and cold hearted about Davis, we should be pulling for the Pels and the Kings to go on massive, soul crushing losing streaks. Won't catch the thoroughbred tankers, but odds will be better in the new system

Davis trade haul + a top 5-10 pick this year, keep Mirotic, and there's still potential for a fun team.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38636 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Over his last 10 games, Anthony Davis has averaged 31.6 points, 15.9 rebounds, 3.5 assists, 1.7 steals and 2.2 blocks while slashing 53.3/29.4/79.6. His team has gone 4-6 during the 10-game stretch.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9925 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:42 am to
quote:

I think the Pels only take this route if they land a Beal or a Griffin, etc. Or if they do something like go 28-5 down the stretch this year. Otherwise, yes, it is too risky.




If that is the plan, then I pray they just hold onto the first unless it is to get Beal. A trade for Barnes or Ross+ or Lin+ would be insanely short-sighted.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:49 pm to
It does.

Anyone, including the front office, that thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

AD is done accepting (if he ever)missing the playoffs. Numerous quotes allude to this
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 7:38 am to
quote:

A playoff berth is becoming more and more of a long shot this season with each passing loss.


3.5 games out of the playoffs with 37 to go

Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:04 pm to
They could make the WCF and he still wouldn't resign.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:08 pm to
I don’t agree with that
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