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Detroit fans and the negatives of SVG the coach
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:03 pm
Detroit fans are pretty mixed, many are not very kind. And that makes sense, he was both the President and the HC for a time, and they were not particularly successful.
So I went to a few sites, particularly Reddit, and looked at what they had to say. There's an obvious level of grain of salt here, because they are definitely going to tend to be very negative as it just didn't work. But many do seem to think he was a good coach just a bad GM.
There is also a lot of talk if him just not doing well with young players.
But here you go.
So I went to a few sites, particularly Reddit, and looked at what they had to say. There's an obvious level of grain of salt here, because they are definitely going to tend to be very negative as it just didn't work. But many do seem to think he was a good coach just a bad GM.
There is also a lot of talk if him just not doing well with young players.
But here you go.
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GM SVG was horrible but Coach SVG was a little better. We all remember a combination of the two and while I think this hire would be a mistake, it really wouldn’t be too horrible
Agreed coach svg would be pretty solid. Just don’t let him be the GM
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As a coach, he was a man out of time. Running defensive schemes to protect the basket from dominant big men and leaving shooters open constantly. And, all the usual SVG neurosis and bad decision making in close games.
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He’s a good coach and he always had us playing above our level on defense. NO isn’t going to have any issues on offense, so this hire would be good.
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This would be a huge mistake by the Pelicans. They would've been better off keeping Gentry
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He said on several occasion that Bower did all the in-season GM work so that he could focus entirely on coaching. Split attentions weren’t an issue. He just sucked as a coach.
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SVG wasn’t a terrible coach when we actually had some players. Before Reggie died and we traded Tobias, he made our team look solid. As a GM on the other hand, not great
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I for one still have a soft spot for SVG the coach. I'm really excited to see what he can do when he's 100% focused on coaching again and not spending time making executive decisions. Also must not hurt to not have a reportedly hands on owner like gores. Will miss his exceptional commentating though
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I will say though I think he’s better for coaching a team filled with veterans. Nola is still relatively young
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He did hike the Pistons up from where they were, he just couldn’t get over the mediocre hump. But also remember how the young players disagreed and had issues with the way he handled, and spoke to them. Outside of Reddick and Holliday, New Orleans real core is all under the age of 25 if I’m not mistaken, and Zion, Lonzo, Jaxson Hayes, Alexander-Walker are all 20-22 years old. Maybe some tough love is what they need.
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He should be toxic sludge after the job he did in Detroit. And it's not like the guy knows how to endear himself to his players...it's like the Pels want Zion to bolt.
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 4:49 pm to Fun Bunch
My thoughts somewhat echo some of those reservations.
I mean the theme of not endearing himself to players is sort of a loud one. It’s the same issue I have with his brother. But with SVG it’s been more pronounced.
I know Reddick speaks highly(he also spoke highly of Doc and Brown, two coaches reporters claim lost their locker rooms, so I think he just naturally endears and empathizes to his coaches, which is why I could see him as coach one day), but I also remember SVG largely losing that locker room in Orlando. I know a large chunk of that was Howard’s immaturity and passive aggressive bullying, but sometimes you get difficult personalities in this league and being able to manage that is important.
I think of the rumored finalists he’d be my choice, but honestly, none of them would really be my first choice I don’t think. But he’s someone that has proven himself and maybe Reddick can help get buy in
I mean the theme of not endearing himself to players is sort of a loud one. It’s the same issue I have with his brother. But with SVG it’s been more pronounced.
I know Reddick speaks highly(he also spoke highly of Doc and Brown, two coaches reporters claim lost their locker rooms, so I think he just naturally endears and empathizes to his coaches, which is why I could see him as coach one day), but I also remember SVG largely losing that locker room in Orlando. I know a large chunk of that was Howard’s immaturity and passive aggressive bullying, but sometimes you get difficult personalities in this league and being able to manage that is important.
I think of the rumored finalists he’d be my choice, but honestly, none of them would really be my first choice I don’t think. But he’s someone that has proven himself and maybe Reddick can help get buy in
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 10/14/20 at 4:55 pm to Fun Bunch
I guess one hesitation I do have about SVG is if he actually is one of those older guys that won't have patience for guys like NAW or Hayes and instead ends up leaning on the Etwaun Moore types when instinct kicks in to win at all costs.
Also, I wonder if he can keep up with the modern NBA. He doesn't seem like the old stuck in their ways nba lifer, but its still kind of a worry for me.
Also, I wonder if he can keep up with the modern NBA. He doesn't seem like the old stuck in their ways nba lifer, but its still kind of a worry for me.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 4:59 pm to Bronc
quote:I saw Gilbert Arenas say something similar. Stan seems so hyper-focused on basketball that he has a hard time connecting with players, outside of ball.
I mean the theme of not endearing himself to players is sort of a loud one. It’s the same issue I have with his brother. But with SVG it’s been more pronounced.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:06 pm to Fun Bunch
Negative: We'll be inundated with jokes about his and Zion's diet.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:16 pm to eyeran
quote:I wouldn't worry about this, he's always been an early adopter.
Also, I wonder if he can keep up with the modern NBA. He doesn't seem like the old stuck in their ways nba lifer, but its still kind of a worry for me.
The example with surrounding Dwight Howard with 4 shooters and shunning the midrange game before most teams comes to mind.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:39 pm to shel311
I’ll say to that point, and why unlike many retreads, he bothers me a lot less, because like Doc, he seems very much open to and actually interested in evolving the game.
I remember before the bubble he was on some podcast, maybe Lowe, and they asked him what sort of trends do you think are under valued and would seek to exploit? That maybe they in the media haven’t really talked about yet? And his answer, zone defense. And he went into a whole breakdown of why it’s intriguing and what it does in terms of slowing down a lot of offensive changes where defense is still catching up. And sure enough it basically had it’s coming out party during the playoffs with Boston, but really, Miami, who utilized it a heck of a lot and basically powered their magical run by strategically utilizing it.
I remember before the bubble he was on some podcast, maybe Lowe, and they asked him what sort of trends do you think are under valued and would seek to exploit? That maybe they in the media haven’t really talked about yet? And his answer, zone defense. And he went into a whole breakdown of why it’s intriguing and what it does in terms of slowing down a lot of offensive changes where defense is still catching up. And sure enough it basically had it’s coming out party during the playoffs with Boston, but really, Miami, who utilized it a heck of a lot and basically powered their magical run by strategically utilizing it.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 5:41 pm
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