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Darius Miller’s $3.6 million exception......
Posted on 2/22/20 at 6:54 am
Posted on 2/22/20 at 6:54 am
Could the Pels possibly add someone before the March 1st deadline and who could that be?
The $3.6 million injury exception for Darius leaves us with if not the most, close to the most money to offer as compared to anyone in the league. The way I understand it, most other playoff teams can only offer prorated portions of minimum contracts. While the Pels could easily blow those offers out of the water with most if not all of the exception.
But is there someone that would help? I still would love to see another big added. Is there a guy on an expiring deal that we could bring in? A Taj Gibson perhaps? I would be curious if you guys think there is someone to be added.
The $3.6 million injury exception for Darius leaves us with if not the most, close to the most money to offer as compared to anyone in the league. The way I understand it, most other playoff teams can only offer prorated portions of minimum contracts. While the Pels could easily blow those offers out of the water with most if not all of the exception.
But is there someone that would help? I still would love to see another big added. Is there a guy on an expiring deal that we could bring in? A Taj Gibson perhaps? I would be curious if you guys think there is someone to be added.
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:25 am to Jon1798
Only way would be on the buyout market, and nobody will come to what is currently a non playoff team in the buyout market
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:58 am to Soggymoss
Players actually chose more money over contenders last season. It would certainly help for us to close the gap over this next week before the deadline. But if a player can make more money playing for us during this last stretch vs playing for a team out of the race, it would be worth it to them.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:11 am to Jon1798
You don't want to cut someone and bring in a guy just for the sake of bringing in a guy.
You have to make sure he will actually contribute on this team, which means he would have to be a better player than our top 8-9 guys.
Ball
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
Favors
Hart
Redick
Melli
Moore
Hayes
Not many buyout guys will be better than them
You have to make sure he will actually contribute on this team, which means he would have to be a better player than our top 8-9 guys.
Ball
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
Favors
Hart
Redick
Melli
Moore
Hayes
Not many buyout guys will be better than them
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:12 am to Jon1798
the guys taking buyouts right now already have their bag in hand for this year, and all made significantly more than 3.6MM. What they do is take their full salary less the minimum then pick their team
the minimum doesn’t count against the cap so all you need is a roster spot and tax room. Pretty much the only way there would be a bidding war for someone is if he was coming from China or otherwise not on an NBA team this year
the minimum doesn’t count against the cap so all you need is a roster spot and tax room. Pretty much the only way there would be a bidding war for someone is if he was coming from China or otherwise not on an NBA team this year
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:36 am to cgrand
I feel like you guys are over thinking this. In theory, a guy could give back a very small amount to his current team, and get the full $3.6 million from the Pels. The player would have the opportunity to make a lot more than what he has in the hand. And of course play for a team fighting for the playoffs.
Now I don’t really expect the Pels to use all of the $3.6 million. But we can easily offer a hell of a lot more than the less than $1 million other teams are able to offer. Money is till money.
Now I don’t really expect the Pels to use all of the $3.6 million. But we can easily offer a hell of a lot more than the less than $1 million other teams are able to offer. Money is till money.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:54 am to Jon1798
Again, who would be available that's better than who we already have?
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:59 am to Soggymoss
Good point.
People seem so eager to dump players not named Zion on a whim.
People seem so eager to dump players not named Zion on a whim.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:01 am to Jon1798
quote:Who are some of the players you think we should be targeting?
Could the Pels possibly add someone before the March 1st deadline and who could that be?
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:05 am to Jon1798
It’s not about money available for 99% of buyout guys, it’s about exposure. They want to join playoff teams not just for the winning, but to get the maximum amount of games to show what they can do, to play for a good coach that can best utilize their skill set, and to show they can contribute to a winning team. All of it is about showcasing for their upcoming free agency. It also helps that GMs want to see how guys compete at the highest level and will give great weight to how guys perform in the playoffs. Just one good playoff series can change a lot of opinions (see Jrue v Blazers).
So it is about money, but they are thinking long term.
So it is about money, but they are thinking long term.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:06 am to Baron
The OP was asking you all, who could be available that we could use. And what we would be looking for. I offered the idea of possibly a backup big, maybe Taj Gibson. While he may not be part of our top 8, he would be crucial if Favors were to get hurt. There are certainly guys that could make our overall roster better.
But yes, ideally it would be someone that could be part of our playoff rotation.
But yes, ideally it would be someone that could be part of our playoff rotation.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:09 am to Jon1798
Taj Gibson is not going to be bought out though...
Posted on 2/22/20 at 11:56 am to Jon1798
quote:
get the full $3.6 million from the Pels.
Players wouldn't get the "full" $3.6 million. They'd get a prorated amount for what's left in the season. If they sign by March 1st, the prorated amount would be about $900k. Compare that to a league minimum, which varies a lot by years played but let's say $1.7 million. The prorated amount of that is about $500k.
Players wouldn't be choosing between ring chasing or an extra $2 million, they'd be choosing between ring chasing and an extra $400kish.
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/22/20 at 12:57 pm to TigerinATL
I don’t believe that is accurate. That’s why the injury exception was such a big deal. It allows for $3.6 million in cap space to sign a player. Not a pro rated annual salary. I will try to find something on it, I swear to nothing on the NBA CBA.
Edit: LINK
Here’s an article explaining how the Lakers $1.7 million exception would be better late in the year because it would then exceed the prorated minimum. The exception is NOT prorated.
Edit: LINK
Here’s an article explaining how the Lakers $1.7 million exception would be better late in the year because it would then exceed the prorated minimum. The exception is NOT prorated.
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 2/22/20 at 1:51 pm to TigerinATL
Agreed. It means we “could” probably have our pick of the litter, if we were really willing to pay $3.6 million for 20 games. And don’t be misled, these conversations often happen way before the actual buyout happens.
The problem is I don’t see a lot of guys I like.....
Taj Gibson
Evan Turner
Tristan Thompson
Wayne Ellington
Dion Waiters
Mo Harkless
Bismack Biyombo
There just aren’t a lot of teams that consider themselves out of the race, even at this point in the year.
The problem is I don’t see a lot of guys I like.....
Taj Gibson
Evan Turner
Tristan Thompson
Wayne Ellington
Dion Waiters
Mo Harkless
Bismack Biyombo
There just aren’t a lot of teams that consider themselves out of the race, even at this point in the year.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 3:44 pm to Jon1798
I don’t know who would be available but I do want another big especially for the playoffs because I’m not sure how playable Hayes would be in a 7 game series especially against the Lakers
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:41 pm to BallHawk
I don’t think the team is going to spend $3.6M in cash to bring in anyone. No one available is worth it TBH.
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