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Coaching Candidate: Will Weaver (by The Advocate/Nola)
Posted on 9/8/20 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 12:44 pm
So, I noticed an article in the Advocate this morning by Christian Clark suggesting a name I have never seen mentioned: Will Weaver
Pelicans coaching candidates: Will Weaver takes a modern approach
He coached Louzada in Australia this year and has coached the Nets' GLeague affiliate in the past
He started out working with Sam Hinkie, which would probably indicate a strong analytics background. Whether you like that or not is up to you.
Discussify.
Pelicans coaching candidates: Will Weaver takes a modern approach
He coached Louzada in Australia this year and has coached the Nets' GLeague affiliate in the past
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Before he took over in Sydney, Weaver worked with Pelicans general manager Trajan Langdon. In 2019, they both helped run the Brooklyn Nets’ G League affiliate, the Long Island Nets. In 2018-19, Long Island went 34-16 and lost to Rio Grande in the G League Finals. Weaver earned G League Coach of the Year honors, while Langdon was named the G League Executive of the Year.
Weaver is widely considered to take a modern approach. Sydney Kings owner Paul Smith called him a “cutting-edge coach with a focus on player development” shortly after his hiring. In an appearance on the Basketball Immersion podcast, Weaver elaborated on what being "modern" means to him.
He started out working with Sam Hinkie, which would probably indicate a strong analytics background. Whether you like that or not is up to you.
Discussify.
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Posted on 9/8/20 at 12:48 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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suggesting a name I have never seen mentioned: Will Weaver
He’s been talked about on here a few times, including just yesterday. He has been on this boards radar for awhile and talked about as a possible candidate since the middle of this past season.
If people like Clark are catching on that must mean there is definitely some internal conversations about him that are leaking out a bit.
It makes me wonder if he doesn’t get the HC job if the team wants him as the lead assistant.
FYI I posted this on August 10:
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I would add Will Weaver to this list. Was an assistant coach in Philly and with the Nets (under Langdon). Langdon made him the GLeague team HC and he won GLeague coach of the year. He was made the HC of the Sydney Kings...where the Pelicans sent Didi Louzada to play. Kings did very very well before the shutdown. Might be a long shot but don’t be surprised if he gets a look.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 12:55 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
I’m definitely going to listen to that podcast to get a feel for him.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:00 pm to Fun Bunch
If Griffin thinks it's the right hire, by all means, I'll give it a fair shake.
Kind of has the feel of a Griffin hire, new, not flashy, international experience, but demonstrated a lot of success at every level.
Could very much see him as a lead assistant as well.
Kind of has the feel of a Griffin hire, new, not flashy, international experience, but demonstrated a lot of success at every level.
Could very much see him as a lead assistant as well.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:04 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:right? seems like it
If people like Clark are catching on that must mean there is definitely some internal conversations about him that are leaking out a bit.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:10 pm to Bronc
He does have more experience than people would give him credit.
He was an assistant Coach in College for 6 years, including at Texas, a major program, under Rick Barnes who was there a long time.
He was then at Philly for 4 seasons and was hired by Hinkie BEFORE Brown was hired.
Then 2 years with the Nets, with a year of HC experience with the GLeague team (GL coach of the year).
And a year as a HC in the NBL, with his team being one of the best in the league.
That is a fairly significant amount of experience, including actual HC experience which a lot of other guys don't have.
He was an assistant Coach in College for 6 years, including at Texas, a major program, under Rick Barnes who was there a long time.
He was then at Philly for 4 seasons and was hired by Hinkie BEFORE Brown was hired.
Then 2 years with the Nets, with a year of HC experience with the GLeague team (GL coach of the year).
And a year as a HC in the NBL, with his team being one of the best in the league.
That is a fairly significant amount of experience, including actual HC experience which a lot of other guys don't have.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:12 pm to Macintosh504
I wasn't taking a shot at Clark just to be clear. Its cool that he brought Weaver up. Just saying that Weaver wouldn't be on a lot of beat writer's radars so its possible that there are some rumblings that he will be interviewed.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:35 pm to Fun Bunch
Yeah it's a solid resume.
The sort of resume where, one year as a lead assistant on a good team, and I would expect him to be a regular name in the NBA coaching vacancy zeitgeist, but absent that is someone that if a respected organization hired today, suddenly gets a lot of glowing articles as a great under the radar pick, because you look at that resume and realize it's already pretty impressively stacked for a 36 to 37-year-old (that just happens to look 45).
The sort of resume where, one year as a lead assistant on a good team, and I would expect him to be a regular name in the NBA coaching vacancy zeitgeist, but absent that is someone that if a respected organization hired today, suddenly gets a lot of glowing articles as a great under the radar pick, because you look at that resume and realize it's already pretty impressively stacked for a 36 to 37-year-old (that just happens to look 45).
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:39 pm to Bronc
I think he might even be younger than Dan Craig, or at least around the same age.
He really fits the mold of what a lot of people on here have speculated as to what Griff would want: a collaborator that will not want or get a lot of power, but will act in union with the front office. Someone forward thinking with some analyitics background and has a previous relationship with the FO (langdon).
It makes a LOT of sense.
He really fits the mold of what a lot of people on here have speculated as to what Griff would want: a collaborator that will not want or get a lot of power, but will act in union with the front office. Someone forward thinking with some analyitics background and has a previous relationship with the FO (langdon).
It makes a LOT of sense.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:39 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
I have been mentioning him since Griff got POBO. Pretty sure Funbunch has been bringing him up for a while too.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:40 pm to NOFOX
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I have been mentioning him since Griff got POBO.
Yup, you have, definitely been one of the leading guys on him for sure.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:41 pm to Fun Bunch
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He does have more experience than people would give him credit.
He was an assistant Coach in College for 6 years, including at Texas, a major program, under Rick Barnes who was there a long time.
He was then at Philly for 4 seasons and was hired by Hinkie BEFORE Brown was hired.
Then 2 years with the Nets, with a year of HC experience with the GLeague team (GL coach of the year).
And a year as a HC in the NBL, with his team being one of the best in the league.
That is a fairly significant amount of experience, including actual HC experience which a lot of other guys don't have.
He was also a coach for the Australian Men's National team.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:48 pm to NOFOX
I’m just ready for some damn news soon. It’s been dead as hell in here. We’ve resorted to poliboard type conversations
Posted on 9/8/20 at 2:00 pm to Fun Bunch
I try to play devil's advocate on everything, so on this, the one thing that might stand out is whether this rubs up against Griffin mentioning wanting to retain a lot of the senior staff. The staff that, in many cases, would be notably older than either Craig or Weaver. Which you might lose(Finch, Vinson) if you bring in one of these wunderkinds. Or just whether the burden of building the whole team's day to day culture is too much to trust with a young guy.
Which wouldn't be the case if you went with a Kenny Atkinson or (highly unlikely at this point given the specific words his players used to criticize him)Brett Brown.
( to devil my devil's advocacy, Griffin also comes partially along under the Danny Ainge umbrella in Phoenix, who hired a guy in his thirties after being nothing but a mid-major head coach, and handed a championship level team to Tyronne Lue, so I'm not really sold on my critique, except that maybe if you rate out a more senior guy at around the same level as Weaver/Craig, those factors come into play and tip the scales.)
Which wouldn't be the case if you went with a Kenny Atkinson or (highly unlikely at this point given the specific words his players used to criticize him)Brett Brown.
( to devil my devil's advocacy, Griffin also comes partially along under the Danny Ainge umbrella in Phoenix, who hired a guy in his thirties after being nothing but a mid-major head coach, and handed a championship level team to Tyronne Lue, so I'm not really sold on my critique, except that maybe if you rate out a more senior guy at around the same level as Weaver/Craig, those factors come into play and tip the scales.)
Posted on 9/8/20 at 2:04 pm to Bronc
They definitely wouldn't be able to retain Finch if they hire someone like Weaver.
To me, Vinson is what he is, he is a high level assistant specialist. He has a really important niche and will always be sought after, so I'm not 100% sure it would make him leave.
Finch definitely would though.
To me, Vinson is what he is, he is a high level assistant specialist. He has a really important niche and will always be sought after, so I'm not 100% sure it would make him leave.
Finch definitely would though.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 2:19 pm to Bronc
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Which you might lose(Finch, Vinson) if you bring in one of these wunderkinds.
From my understanding the team has one more option year for the contracts of both Vinson and Finch. They were extended in conjunction with Gentry, but with options instead of fully guaranteed. So unless they are interviewed for and receive a HC position (no chance for Vinson), they will be back with the Pels if Griff desires.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 2:37 pm to NOFOX
I would imagine the natural question would be though, would forcing any assistant to stay create more problems than it is worth? For your new head coach or reputationally for your organization?
Again, they might be completely cool with it for all I know(heck, who knows, maybe Finch blew Griffin away and he's the guy), was simply offering some self counterpoints, but Finch in particular probably feels he has paid his dues and I'm not sure anyone is better off forcing him to stay if he expressed the desire to go to, say, IDK, Philly or something because they pick a guy he has a strong relationship with and he thinks it's a better career move.
Again, they might be completely cool with it for all I know(heck, who knows, maybe Finch blew Griffin away and he's the guy), was simply offering some self counterpoints, but Finch in particular probably feels he has paid his dues and I'm not sure anyone is better off forcing him to stay if he expressed the desire to go to, say, IDK, Philly or something because they pick a guy he has a strong relationship with and he thinks it's a better career move.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 3:50 pm to Bronc
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Again, they might be completely cool with it for all I know(heck, who knows, maybe Finch blew Griffin away and he's the guy), was simply offering some self counterpoints, but Finch in particular probably feels he has paid his dues and I'm not sure anyone is better off forcing him to stay if he expressed the desire to go to, say, IDK, Philly or something because they pick a guy he has a strong relationship with and he thinks it's a better career move.
Yeah, I was more speaking in reference to Vinson. You don't want to force a lead assistant on a new coach or force an assistant with a better opportunity to stay with a new HC.
I do think Vinson as just one of the development coaches who happens to have bonded with BI is a lot easier/cleaner to force upon a new coach and block teams from poaching him.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 3:55 pm to NOFOX
My thing with Vinson mirrors, of all people, what Bill Simmons said, pay that man his money! Cause i think you and Fun are right, he is what he is, an elite niche coach that provides enormous developmental value. So we should pay him like one...or someone else is going to.
Then try and let the league tell you his salary scale is out of whack when you can show how this guy can help turn average or subpar shooters into good or borderline elite ones time and again(Gordon, Evans, Davis, Ingram, Lonzo, Cunningham, and on).
Then try and let the league tell you his salary scale is out of whack when you can show how this guy can help turn average or subpar shooters into good or borderline elite ones time and again(Gordon, Evans, Davis, Ingram, Lonzo, Cunningham, and on).
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 4:04 pm to Fun Bunch
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He really fits the mold of what a lot of people on here have speculated as to what Griff would want:
This quote from Weaver about Brett Brown reminded me of how Griff has talked about the team building relationships with players.
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Brett was incredible at purposefully texting, spending time having meals and having guys up to his office to watch film. Working with guys pregame on the floor, he showed me what being a relationship-driven coach really looked like.
According to Fletch, one of the issues that created tension between Gentry and Griffin was how "cozy" the Front Office was getting with players.
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