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Benefits/risk of blackballing Klutch

Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6513 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:39 pm
I say fricking do it. Set an example. I don't give a shite is that shrinks our talent pool somewhat.

Maybe other teams in small markets will follow.

Now, you can't stop a player already on the roster to switching to them, but you can make it real clear, we don't negotiate with terrorists.

I have an unhealthy hatred of Lebron and Klutch. They are a bunch of morons who think they're a lot smarter than they really are.

I really can't wait until that agency falls apart post Lebron.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 2:13 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94645 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:40 pm to
I don’t see an official blackballing of them but any acquisition of a Klutch player likely sees us demand a premium from the other team for accepting them.

Case in point - Bledsoe’s worthless arse.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6513 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:45 pm to
Bledsoe is a Klutch client? I didn't know but that makes perfect sense. Worthless player and agency.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8638 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:04 pm to
I agree, just a bunch of tshirt sellers trying to bully teams that lebron has influence over....
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278065 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:25 pm to
Zero benefits

Bad business people take business personal
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24830 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:29 pm to
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Bad business people take business personal


Agree but good business people recognize trends. There is definitely a trend here. It’s wise to keep distance between Klutch and the organization, IMO.
Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3785 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:40 pm to
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There a bunch of morons


LOL
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6513 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:13 pm to
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LOL


Yeah, I typed that too quick. Thanks for the proof.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110477 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:19 pm to
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Benefits/risk of blackballing Klutch
There are quite literally zero benefits from this
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6513 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:28 pm to
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There are quite literally zero benefits from this



Really? Not having to constantly have bullshite whispered into your players' ears about moving to a preferred destination?

That seems like a benefit to me.
Posted by Kato
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Member since Nov 2006
2766 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 4:05 pm to
I'm sure this has been discussed, but how in the hell is Lebron allowed to do this? How is this not tampering?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 4:11 pm to
blacklisting is pointless, but if you are a GM you should be operating with quite a few assumptions about Klutch at this point and none of them good, and that should influence what you do with players associated with them.

Not only does Klutch have a tendency to act aggressively in moving their better players to certain markets, but they are also aggressive in their ignorance at times in seeking over-valuated contracts for their players and providing bad advice that burns bridges with teams and has damaged the pocketbooks and career trajectory of more than one player.





This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 4:12 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35279 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 4:13 pm to
This shite is so dumb.



Agents (players) frick over teams, teams frick over players (agents). It’s part of business of professional sports.


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110477 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:15 am to
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Really?
Yes

quote:

Not having to constantly have bullshite whispered into your players' ears about moving to a preferred destination?

I think your confusion is thinking that because this happened to us with AD that means only Klutch players do this.

Players across all agencies do this, so are you going to stop working with every agency to remain consistent? At some point, you'll have zero players to add to your team with this logic. All agents are trying to get star players to their preferred destinations.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110477 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:19 am to
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I'm sure this has been discussed, but how in the hell is Lebron allowed to do this? How is this not tampering?
He has no legal standing with Klutch. Wha are you going to do? You can't tell someone they can't be an agent because their friend is in the NBA.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24830 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:21 am to
CAA, Zion’s representing firm,!has a stellar reputation across sports. I would lean into an organization like CAA.

Plus, while toni is doing ruffles ads, CAA clients are doing shite tons of endorsements.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14847 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:22 am to
This sounds like an agent doing their job. No different than countless others.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94645 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:24 am to
Klutch was particularly brazen about it because Rich Paul felt that Dell Demps dissed him.

Whispering in a player’s ear is one thing.

Trying to tank a superstar player’s value to force a fire sale to one specific team on a short deadline because the agent got butthurt about a GM is is unprofessional as hell.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110477 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:26 am to
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CAA, Zion’s representing firm,!has a stellar reputation across sports. I would lean into an organization like CAA.
Chris Paul and Paul George are with CAA.

Now the Pels have to be blackball CAA too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420796 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:38 am to
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Zero benefits

i agree the risk-reward is skewed

but

quote:

Bad business people take business personal

this is literally what Klutch is doing

when they're influencing role players making very good money to intentionally play poorly to force small markets' hands as subterfuge, you're getting into a really, really bad scenario

ok a superstar like AD wants to go to a big market and team up with Lebron? that's one thing

a guy coming off a rookie deal wants a bigger market but keeps playing hard while the team acquiesces to his requests out of respect? that's life

but a guy being a 5th piece in a trade who is intentionally tanking because his agency told him to? the NBA really needs to step in or just contract half the league if this shite is permitted
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