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fhsdemonfan3131
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
Lauri and it’s not that close


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Not Cooper
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
Lauri is pretty much a proven commodity at this point. I think Carter has the potential (key word) to impact the game in more ways than just shooting, but I think the league in general values the stretch 4 more than the traditional 5, so I'd go with Lauri.

That said, if I'm trading AD I want them both
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NOFOX
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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Makes zero sense to leave a team with Jrue to one with Lavine



A Bulls offer would have to rely on them getting 1 or 2 in the draft. The Bulls would want to keep Lavine to convince AD to stay. I imagine that the only way they would trade is fi they kept a core of Lavine, Markannen, and AD.


DeionDeion
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
going one step further say the Bulls are willing to trade the #1 or #2 overall. how do you rank the following:

#1/#2 overall + Markannen
#1/#2 overall + Knox/DSJ
Tatum/Brown/Memphis pick



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cgrand
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
bulls arent trading Markannen, full stop.
they know what they have

lavine & dunn are placeholders for them as they re-build.


LosLobos111
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
I just don't see the logic in it from him but his gang hasn't been very logical

Morant(or Barrett)
Carter
Porter
Valentine or Dunn
Future pick(s)

Work?


DeionDeion
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
well youre a party-pooper


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NOFOX
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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lavine & dunn are placeholders for them as they re-build.


Lavine is 23 and has gone for 39, 47, 30, and 42 in 4 of his last seven games. He gets to the line almost 6 times a game. I know he was written off early, but the kid is extremely talented. A smart coach is going to come along and get a hold of him at some point and he is going to really go off.

I think he would be part of the core if they traded for AD.


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cgrand
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
i'm not saying they'll move him, i'm saying they wont sign him to a new deal. if they draft right, they wont need to

lavine is fine right now, he scores a lot and is a good athlete. but they will build around lauri, porter, carter, and whichever draftees/young guys they like.


NOFOX
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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I just don't see the logic in it from him but his gang hasn't been very logical


It is not AD's choice. He wants out. We get to choose where he goes. I think the only chance the Bulls make a play is if they can keep Lavine and Markannen to try to convince AD to stay. I actually think Lavine/AD pick and rolls with the threat of LAuri outside could do some damage in the east.

I also doubt they make a play because they can just keep the rostert hey have and grow organically without taking the risk and subjecting themselves to the drama of whetehr he will stay.

I will sya that I think Jrue-Barrett-Porter-Carter is an interesting core. You would get off the high price of Jrue and Otto before having to pay Barrett and WCJ. Lots of versatility in the lineup with Barrett/Jrue/Porter being able to play multiple positions and WCJ to protect the rim.



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NOFOX
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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but they will build around lauri, porter, carter, and whichever draftees/young guys they like.




Lavine had 39-5-4 against the Sixers last night with 26 pts in the second half and hit the game winner. I think he is part of the Bulls future and is also the most marketable player they have which helps.

If anything I think Porter is the placeholder. They traded for him because they knew no one would sign there. I am an unabashed Porter fan, so I think in the end it was a great move for them. I also believe they need to move on from developing young guys. They have the bones of a good team with Lavine-Porter-Markannen-Carter.

I think if they brought in someone like Pat Beverly that team could make a run in the east in the next couple of years. Or they could make an offer for Malcolm Brogdon to create discomfort for Milwaukee.


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CelticDog
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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#1/#2 overall + Markannen 
#1/#2 overall + Knox/DSJ 
Tatum/Brown/Memphis pick 



First of all, night and day 1 and 2.
2nd, Memphis pick is protected and not happening 2019, maybe not 2020.

Knox and dsj better than Lauri.

By the time the deal happens we all know who mr2 is.
Maybe I want mr3.

We also will have seen Zion in NCAA. And morant, in nit or NCAA.

We are being asked if Tatum better than Zion. Better than morant. Better than mr2.

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NOFOX
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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Knox and dsj better than Lauri


Knox has been really, really bad. Eye test says he is a player, but my goodness he has been awful. I actually think right now you have to say that Mitchell Robinson is the best non-draft asset NY has at the moment.

I would jump at #1 or #2 + Robinson + Mavs picks as the core of the trade. The good thing about the knicks is they basically have to send us all of their young guys if they want to maintain 2 max slots in an AD trade.



LosLobos111
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
If you get that package and I'm the pels I'd draft a safe guy like Hunter or maybe okapala to supplement Knox

Morant/Elfrid
Jrue/Frank
Knox/Hunter
Robinson/Kenrich
Okafor/Diallo

Very green team but talented and deep





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DeionDeion
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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First of all, night and day 1 and 2.


yea I just didn't want to write out more options. sorry I was lazy

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Knox and dsj better than Lauri.


I very much disagree but hearing other people give their opinions is also why I posed the question. I think Lauri is going to be an all-star in 2 years and I think he's the perfect stretch-big for today's NBA. Knox will get you excited if you find highlights on youtube, but watching him consistently is very different.

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We are being asked if Tatum better than Zion. Better than morant. Better than mr2.


That answer is dependent on if you have a "prove-it mentality" or if you line up with more of the hype and potential mindset


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cgrand
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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Knox has been really, really bad. Eye test says he is a player, but my goodness he has been awful. I actually think right now you have to say that Mitchell Robinson is the best non-draft asset NY has at the moment.

yes
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I would jump at #1 or #2 + Robinson + Mavs picks as the core of the trade. The good thing about the knicks is they basically have to send us all of their young guys if they want to maintain 2 max slots in an AD trade.

yes, again


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RogerTempleton
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Austin
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re: Are people sleeping on a potential Chicago offer?
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They certainly have the pieces:

Lavine
Markannen
Wendell Carter
Probable top 4 pick

Would villain AD refuse to play for his hometown team?


Yes, and Chicago is not giving up all of that for a 1 year rental of AD.


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