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Adjusted record (winnable games)
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:21 am
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:21 am
If pelicans were to win at least half of the games they were supposed to win what would our record be?
I’m thinking something along the lines of 34-23 and would be 5th in the west. There’s at least 9 games maybe more that we had at least an 80% chance to win while in the 4th quarter that we lost.
If someone want to actually do the math TIA. I couldn’t find the proper stats to do it myself
I’m thinking something along the lines of 34-23 and would be 5th in the west. There’s at least 9 games maybe more that we had at least an 80% chance to win while in the 4th quarter that we lost.
If someone want to actually do the math TIA. I couldn’t find the proper stats to do it myself
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 7:25 am
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:26 am to Louisianabound88
Yeah, as Van Gundy has said many times, this team competes in nearly every game.
What they lack is leadership. That's not a knock at Zion or anyone else specifically, but it's obvious that they lack the player who speaks up to back what the coach says and the guy who keeps teammates in line.
That player hasn't come forward. It should be Lonzo Ball, but it's not.
What they lack is leadership. That's not a knock at Zion or anyone else specifically, but it's obvious that they lack the player who speaks up to back what the coach says and the guy who keeps teammates in line.
That player hasn't come forward. It should be Lonzo Ball, but it's not.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 7:27 am
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:36 am to Louisianabound88
Listening to NBA radio , they said the pelicans were one the most underachieving teams in the league...I agree
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:36 am to jptiger2009
I can’t think of many games that they were completely outmatched in. They just need to learn how to finish games. Before the season I was real big on getting a CP3 or Rondo on this team. Think it would have helped tremendously
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:41 am to Louisianabound88
There is no reason this team couldn't finish the season 44-38
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:46 am to saints5021
It’s depressing but encouraging at the same time, hopefully the team sees what they record could have been and lock in from now on carrying into next season
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:06 am to saints5021
quote:
There is no reason this team couldn't finish the season 44-38
I can give you one...
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:08 am to saints5021
Well they aren't playing 82 games this year. So that's one reason.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:08 am to Louisianabound88
Just off the top of my head games we had no business losing
1) Up by 6 against Pacers with 25 seconds left. Reason for loss- Stan refusing to use timeouts while redick and lonzo looked like grade schoolers in the backcourt
2) OKC Thunder Game. Back and forth game despite having major talent advantage. Seemed to grab control late but we gave up basically 14 points on the last 5 possessions to lose by 1. Lonzo was main culprit with his lack of D on Shai. Zion also let Bazley cook him all game.
3) Charlotte Hornets Lamelo Ball Triple Double Game. We were up 18 midway through 2nd quarter and should have been up 35. We were turning the ball over like crazy which kept Charlotte within striking distance. We ended up losing bc basically couldn’t score jack in the 4th and Lamelo punked Lonzo all game.
4) Portland Trail Blazers. Up 8-10 going into 4th. We let Dame get cooking. Can’t remember specifics bc the other Portland game was even worse. This game was also a horrible loss though. Typical mismanagement of clock, ignoring Zion down stretch, and giving up offensive rebounds that led to second chance points.
5) Portland- Blew 17 point lead in last 5 minutes. Culprit- Dame Time and we played the clock like idiots for 5 straight minutes. We kept going super early in the possession and that gave Portland more possessions to come back. Also Brandon Blew 2 ft’s with 5 seconds left and NAW dropped an inbound with 2 seconds left.
6) Denver- Up 11 with 6 mins left. Can’t remember what happened tbh bc all of these choke job games melt into each other.
7) Wizards- Up 10 with 6 mins left. Culprit- Scoring 2 points in last 6 mins. Bonus Culprit- SVG bringing in Lonzo after he’d been sitting the bench the last 75 minutes.
8) Knicks- Up 6 with 1:48 left. Culprit-Bled and Zo on that last defensive play of regulation.
9) Kings- Up 11 going into 4th. Culprit. We scored 12 points in the 4th against the worst defense in the league.
10) Orlando- Up 4 with 1 min to go in Reg. Culprit- Horrendous live ball turnover at the top of the key to give up a free 2 points. Ross hit some tough shots as well, but that turnover is what lost the game.
11) Suns. Up 12 heading into 4th. Proceed to get outscored like 43-7.
That’s 11 off the top of my head. There are way more. I know we lost to Detroit, Minny, Chicago (twice), Houston too. Those are bad losses, but we kind of got our asses beat in them so they didn’t make my blown game list. I will say the 2nd loss against Chicago was at least useful as that is the game that Jaxson basically cut a 21 point lead to 4 by himself late in the game. We had a solid chance to win at the end, but that’s the game Zion missed a bunch of late FT’s.
1) Up by 6 against Pacers with 25 seconds left. Reason for loss- Stan refusing to use timeouts while redick and lonzo looked like grade schoolers in the backcourt
2) OKC Thunder Game. Back and forth game despite having major talent advantage. Seemed to grab control late but we gave up basically 14 points on the last 5 possessions to lose by 1. Lonzo was main culprit with his lack of D on Shai. Zion also let Bazley cook him all game.
3) Charlotte Hornets Lamelo Ball Triple Double Game. We were up 18 midway through 2nd quarter and should have been up 35. We were turning the ball over like crazy which kept Charlotte within striking distance. We ended up losing bc basically couldn’t score jack in the 4th and Lamelo punked Lonzo all game.
4) Portland Trail Blazers. Up 8-10 going into 4th. We let Dame get cooking. Can’t remember specifics bc the other Portland game was even worse. This game was also a horrible loss though. Typical mismanagement of clock, ignoring Zion down stretch, and giving up offensive rebounds that led to second chance points.
5) Portland- Blew 17 point lead in last 5 minutes. Culprit- Dame Time and we played the clock like idiots for 5 straight minutes. We kept going super early in the possession and that gave Portland more possessions to come back. Also Brandon Blew 2 ft’s with 5 seconds left and NAW dropped an inbound with 2 seconds left.
6) Denver- Up 11 with 6 mins left. Can’t remember what happened tbh bc all of these choke job games melt into each other.
7) Wizards- Up 10 with 6 mins left. Culprit- Scoring 2 points in last 6 mins. Bonus Culprit- SVG bringing in Lonzo after he’d been sitting the bench the last 75 minutes.
8) Knicks- Up 6 with 1:48 left. Culprit-Bled and Zo on that last defensive play of regulation.
9) Kings- Up 11 going into 4th. Culprit. We scored 12 points in the 4th against the worst defense in the league.
10) Orlando- Up 4 with 1 min to go in Reg. Culprit- Horrendous live ball turnover at the top of the key to give up a free 2 points. Ross hit some tough shots as well, but that turnover is what lost the game.
11) Suns. Up 12 heading into 4th. Proceed to get outscored like 43-7.
That’s 11 off the top of my head. There are way more. I know we lost to Detroit, Minny, Chicago (twice), Houston too. Those are bad losses, but we kind of got our asses beat in them so they didn’t make my blown game list. I will say the 2nd loss against Chicago was at least useful as that is the game that Jaxson basically cut a 21 point lead to 4 by himself late in the game. We had a solid chance to win at the end, but that’s the game Zion missed a bunch of late FT’s.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:16 am to 3PieceSpicy
quote:
know we lost to Detroit, Minny, Chicago (twice), Houston too. Those are bad losses, but we kind of got our asses beat in them so they didn’t make my blown game list
the teams with losing records have pros too.
every team has guys that scored at will once when they were hot.
the odds says he wont do it again today but he might.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:34 am to BowDownToLSU
quote:We're definitely on that short list.
Listening to NBA radio , they said the pelicans were one the most underachieving teams in the league...I agree
Before the season, Vegas had our O/U at basically a .500 team. Even before this rash of injuries, we were the healthiest team in the entire NBA and still 5 or 6 games below .500.
When the coach has been complaining for 60+ games now that we lack effort on defense, then you can go ahead and blame the players AND the coach.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:36 am to CelticDog
quote:
the teams with losing records have pros too.
This thread is not about losing to bad teams, it’s about losing the games we had a probability of over 75% chance to win going into the 4th quarter
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:41 am to 3PieceSpicy
Yeah I’m sure there is more too but you’re spot on, so take those 11 losses and apply them to the win column and we’re probably 4th in the west smh
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:46 am to Louisianabound88
Yep pretty depressing to think about tbh. I hope these crazy losses are hitting the players as hard as they hit the fans. Maybe they will eventually say enough is enough and put a stop to it. We still are a young team, so there is still hope, but it’s been such a never ending cycle, it’s somewhat difficult to see a light at the end of the tunnel.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:49 am to CelticDog
quote:
the teams with losing records have pros too.
We lost to the Magic after they traded away all of their pros.
We are probably the only team in the league that can say we've lost to the 7 worst teams in the league, and also beat 7 of the top 8 teams, and if we win tonight, it'll be 8 of the top 8.
Different year, same story.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:51 am to shel311
quote:
When the coach has been complaining for 60+ games now that we lack effort on defense, then you can go ahead and blame the players AND the coach.
I have no idea if there is any merit to this, but does anyone think maybe the players don't like SVG, and that's why you see the lack of effort so often? Are the players just that bad, or do they not want to play for him? It's an honest question b/c you saw what happened to ATL once they got rid of their coach.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:51 am to Louisianabound88
This team will do what they have done all season:
Win and lose games they shouldn't.
We won't be a playoff team barring something really, really unforeseen.
Win and lose games they shouldn't.
We won't be a playoff team barring something really, really unforeseen.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:52 am to TeddyPadillac
It’s hard to project wins for the Pels because they win the games ppl think they shouldn’t and then they lose to teams they shouldn’t (like the Rockets, Detroit, Thunder, etc.). Plus, they blow leads like no one’s business. This is probably the most unpredictable Pelicans team I’ve seen.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:53 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:No idea if they don't like him or not, but basing it solely on SVG comments after losses, it seems extremely clear and obvious that they do not listen to or buy into him right now.
I have no idea if there is any merit to this, but does anyone think maybe the players don't like SVG, and that's why you see the lack of effort so often? Are the players just that bad, or do they not want to play for him? It's an honest question b/c you saw what happened to ATL once they got rid of their coach.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:55 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
the teams with losing records have pros too.
We lost to the Magic after they traded away all of their pros.
come on man. thats what im pointing to.
the ones who suited up are pros too and some were thrilled they get their first start or for some even to play meaningful minutes.
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