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YouTube TV finally in 4k
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:39 pm
Has anybody subscribed to their 4K plus program? Worth the extra $10 month to watch moves on your phone?
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:45 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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extra $10 month
What is that, about $90/month now for Youtube TV??
All those people who ditched DirecTV and Dish, will be paying the exact same or more in another year or two at the rate these tech companies love to rip people off.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:47 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
That’s a no from me dawg.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:49 pm to Athos
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All those people who ditched DirecTV and Dish, will be paying the exact same or more in another year or two at the rate these tech companies love to rip people off.
Yep. I work for a tech company that sells AT&T tv. We've been killing it with the $84.99 Choice package. Up to 20 streams inside house, 3 anywhere in US. Comes with regional sports network and free HBO Max
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:56 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
How can it be real 4K? Is it just upscaled?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:58 pm to Rhames
How is Netflix 4K?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 8:00 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
I'm not paying for shite extra until they can fix their compression issues that kill picture quality on some channels. 4k is meaningless if it is pixelated as shite because of compression.
Also their native app on the new version of Samsung's Tizen system is buggy as frick.
Also their native app on the new version of Samsung's Tizen system is buggy as frick.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 8:25 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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How is Netflix 4K?
That’s shot in 4K. From my understanding, 4K live programming is far and few between.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 9:36 pm to TigerFanatic99
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I'm not paying for shite extra until they can fix their compression issues that kill picture quality on some channels. 4k is meaningless if it is pixelated as shite because of compression.
This. It also seems like they dedicate more bandwidth for some channels than others. Until they can deliver Blu-ray quality, there's no point in paying extra for 4k.
Maybe I'm blind AF but I can't really tell much difference after going to the trouble of upgrading my TV and Blu-ray player and a few movies to 4k. In fact I think the HDR is worse and I've turned that off where I can (my TV is mid-range and isn't all that great at HDR, to be fair).
Posted on 7/15/21 at 9:56 pm to Grievous Angel
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In fact I think the HDR is worse and I've turned that off where I can
There are two main issues with this:
1. most people watch their TV's with too much ambient light so the different black levels become indistinguishable. A classic example of this was the White Walker battle in GOT ton's of people complained they could make out what was going on. Their TV did not have the dynamic range to show the details given the ambient light.
2. HDR requires a very high NITS level depending on how the source is mastered it may need 1k, 4k or even 10k nits to view as intended. There really aren't a lot of TV's that can produce 1,000 NITS.
Low NITS plus high ambient light will cause disappointment with HDR material.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:00 pm to Obtuse1
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Low NITS plus high ambient light will cause disappointment with HDR material.
I think you're speaking the truth. You gotta spend some money to get a good HDR experience. Not all TVs that are "HDR" capable are created equal. Mine's one of them.
And a bad HDR experience is worse than no HDR.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:23 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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How is Netflix 4K?
As mentioned those shows for the most part are shot in 4K although some of their 4K content is upscaled. I haven’t looked in a few years but last I checked most broadcasts are in 720P. That could have changed though.
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 8:24 am
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:25 am to Grievous Angel
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Not all TVs that are "HDR" capable are created equal. Mine's one of them
Absolutely. Just because a TV is capable of playing HDR video, doesn't mean its full HDR quality. Surprising to me how so many people will spend hundreds of dollars on a tv and not even know what they're really buying. Now im sure some really don't care, but some think they're getting a true HDR tv and all that
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:28 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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How is Netflix 4K?
They film their original shows/movies in 4k. Just because a service is capable of streaming 4k, doesn't mean everything you watch on there is 4k. Pretty much all of the non-netflix produced tv shows and movies on netlfix are in basic HD
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:50 am to Rhames
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As mentioned those shows for the most part are shot in 4K although some of their 4K content is upscaled
Holy shite, it is official that I am turning into a boomer
Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:13 am to Obtuse1
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1. most people watch their TV's with too much ambient light so the different black levels become indistinguishable. A classic example of this was the White Walker battle in GOT ton's of people complained they could make out what was going on. Their TV did not have the dynamic range to show the details given the ambient light.
2. HDR requires a very high NITS level depending on how the source is mastered it may need 1k, 4k or even 10k nits to view as intended. There really aren't a lot of TV's that can produce 1,000 NITS.
Low NITS plus high ambient light will cause disappointment with HDR material
This is very accurate. I bought the new gen Samsung Q90A Neo-QLED about 2 months ago and it is known for being bright as frick. I actually rewatched the Winterfell battle about a month ago on it with room lights turned off and it was almost like watching a remastered version compared to when I first saw it.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:22 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
It looked like some of the main events for the Olympics will be in 4k, so may take a cheap test drive and if it sucks just ditch the package
Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:28 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Any "4K" content you stream, whether from Youtube or Netflix, is going to be heavily compressed, and will appear similar in quality to a 1080p Blu-Ray disc played natively.
If you watch something in native 4K (ie, from a UHD Blu-Ray disc) you'll be blown away by how superior it looks to "4K" streamed content.
If you watch something in native 4K (ie, from a UHD Blu-Ray disc) you'll be blown away by how superior it looks to "4K" streamed content.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:53 am to Cs
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If you watch something in native 4K (ie, from a UHD Blu-Ray disc) you'll be blown away by how superior it looks to "4K" streamed content.
This is so true. Why I still buy 4K discs
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