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re: Why piracy is common

Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:39 pm to
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U MAD.

Do I seem mad?

I am having a fair discussion, I'd hate to give off the wrong impression.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:48 pm to
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The question everyone is asking though is WHY game of thrones isn't available through conventional methods?


Because releasing it immediately after it airs through different mediums undermines HBO's entire business model.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:53 pm to
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Or go outside.
quote:

44596 posts
lulz
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:59 pm to
They need to change their business model.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:03 pm to
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They need to change their business model.



Exactly.

Either make an attempt to protect yourself from piracy or don't bitch about it.
Posted by jmcamz2899
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Siderophore
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:29 pm to
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I have enoigh self discipline to not NEED everything I WANT.


It's not a question of self discipline here though

It's someone else who is making that choice for you.

I buy as much of my stuff legally as possible.

But you are insane if you don't think HBO has a stick up their arse about this.

They want complete control like they had before, and frick thR market shifting towards consumer freedom.

Case in point: if GoT isn't available for Netflix DVD yet. That is inexcusable and absurd.

I would be willing to pay a premium on ITunes... As much as 5 bucks an episode.

But they don't want to lose that direct control, so they hold it close to the vest to the point of hurting their own business and then they whine about piracy
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:32 pm to
I'm not going to debate the morality of piracy on here yet again, but the example you used couldn't be more biased to support your agenda.

HBO produces its original programming in-house. The reason they do this is to entice more paying viewers to its channels. It's not like Warner Brothers, which produces a movie to be exhibited for a number of different platforms.

It seems like your analogy would be akin to justifying people steal Final Cut Pro because Apple makes it difficult for PC users to fully utilize its proprietary software.
Posted by Siderophore
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:32 pm to
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Because releasing it immediately after it airs through different mediums undermines HBO's entire business model.


In case you did notice, the comic isnt over the current season.

It's over LAST season
Posted by Siderophore
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:34 pm to
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HBO produces its original programming in-house. The reason they do this is to entice more paying viewers to its channels. It's not like Warner Brothers, which produces a movie to be exhibited for a number of different platforms.


To that I offer a counter point: AMC gets their original shows onto digital mediums very fast.

Within 12 hours you can buy it on iTunes

Sorry, that excuse only works for HBO to a point...
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:39 pm to
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To that I offer a counter point: AMC gets their original shows onto digital mediums very fast. Within 12 hours you can buy it on iTunes Sorry, that excuse only works for HBO to a point...


That's why I said HBO was a terrible argument to use in support of piracy. HBO's business model is clearly different than the majority of broadcast networks.
Posted by Siderophore
Member since Nov 2010
3338 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:43 pm to
That seems a circular argument.

They act the way they do, because they act the way they do?

Why is HBO's business model so special?

Hell, Starz felt okay getting in a contract with Netflix

It's probably only because of HBO trying to hold onto the old school system that they let it lapse.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33407 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:46 pm to
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To that I offer a counter point: AMC gets their original shows onto digital mediums very fast.


And AMC is struggling their asses off to finance their original programming and are cutting budgets left and right.

HBO could change their business model, like some are suggesting as if it would be easy to do, but then they probably couldn't afford to make niche quality original programming like your precious Game of Thrones.

HBO might as well just turn to making reality shows on the cheap like every other cable channel.
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 1:48 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
80729 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:49 pm to
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How does that get you GoT?



You're not entitled to it just because you want it.

I want a million dollars.

You could have watched GoT a long time ago. Subscribe to HBO.
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 1:58 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72816 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:52 pm to
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That seems a circular argument.

They act the way they do, because they act the way they do?


No. Their business plan is in place to protect their assets. There is little money in streaming content. By channeling viewers of their quality programming, HBO gains subscribers to its business, which allows them to continue to create high-quality programming and sustain their business.

Keep in mind that you are comparing basic cable channels (AMC) to premium channels (HBO).
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:59 pm to
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I want a million dollars.



Me too

and if I could download it off the internet you can bet your sweet arse I'd have a million dollars....
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80729 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:10 pm to
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and if I could download it off the internet you can bet your sweet arse I'd have a million dollars....



Nothing stopping you from copying and printing your own money.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29555 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:13 pm to
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Nothing stopping you from copying and printing your own money.



That takes a little more than BitTorrent and an internet connection though doesnt it
Posted by constant cough
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Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:17 pm to
You know I don't feel bad at all about stealing from Hollywood. frick them. They'd just take my money and give it to Obama or some other Democrat who's against me.

I feel the same about them as I do spending my money with the UAW.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:22 pm to
I get HBO on basic cable where I live. Does the cable monolopy just roll the price of HBO into the bill?
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